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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:59 PM

I don't think so no. I think the character is meant to be a combination of all the different versions of Robin from the comic.


Dick Grayson was the first Robin, Jason Todd was the second, Tim Drake was the third Robin, Stephanie Brown the fourth, Damien Wayne the fifth.



Thanks for the helpful info, guys!

Here's a neat round up of the comic storyline's that inspired the film: http://www.ew.com/ew...20613554,00.htm


Cool! Good to know they did their research and wanted to stay true to many of the elements from the comic books.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 12:32 PM

THE DARK KNIGHT RISES' Christian Bale Fulfills Wish For Young Cancer Patient:

http://www.comicbook...1/news/?a=66919

Awww....Bale just keeps getting sweeter & sweeter.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:35 AM

Christian Bale Calls 8-Year-Old Cancer Patient

http://batman-news.c...-patient-video/

Bale is a spreader of kindness extraordinaire! If possible, I gain more & more respect for the guy each time.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

I read it first as an insult, like some kid on set pissed him off, and so Bale called him a "cancer patient."
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:46 AM

I read it first as an insult, like some kid on set pissed him off, and so Bale called him a "cancer patient."



Heh. I didn’t read it like that until you pointed it out.

Bale may get angry, but he’d never call a child, or anyone, a "cancer patient" in a cruel way.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 01:36 PM

And the new Batman is.......Ben Affleck!?! Alright...Let's do what everybody else is doing. Let's talk about it (I don't really want to devote a whole new thread to the topic just yet).

 

Honestly, I'm not that bothered by the idea of Ben Affleck playing Batman. Like I said before....I don't think there will be a better Batman than Bale. And as bad as I wanted Bale to step back into the role, I can't picture his version of the Dark Knight being paired up with Superman or any other superhero in a movie.

 

If you're pro-Ben, say it & back your reasoning for being supportive.  And if you're upset and wanting to sign that petition (yup, rumor is that there's a petition going around to keep Ben from having the part), then WHO would you choose to be Batman?

 

But let's not turn this into a word battle. Let's discuss this like the mature posters we are, shall we? B)  



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 03:49 PM

First off, I love what Nolan did with Batman. Love it.  I think it was an excellent choice made at the right time.  They had an amazing crew and showed people that comic films are not all just for kids.  This was dark, gritty and dirty.  A perfect crime film in many ways.  To prove that, go back and swap out Batman with some regular joe, or Joker with some sadistic nutcase sans makeup.  Same story, same events, just take away the costumes.   It's still an amazing film, but now it's a crime film, not a comic book movie.  With the exception of a few elements in the last film, all three you can do this with.  That's what Nolan wanted to do, and he did a fantastic job.  

 

I think Ben is a good choice.  Way out of left field, but it makes sense.  Plus, I think it's time he got out of movie jail.  His directing skills are amazing, way better than most career directors out there.  His acting, that's up for debate.  I can see him doing this.  I don't want to look ingnorant, but how hard is it to play Batman?  He has the look (built, strong chin) and he can be monotone.  He can yell.  Okay, I'm really downplaying that, but seriously, the trick for Affleck is being a good Bruce Wayne and getting good material. 

 

Ben has done action films, he knows the ropes.  I am willing to bet WB are going to go for something a tad bit lighter in tone this go round.  They want to be Marvel and they want to build up to Justice Leauge.  How do they do that?  Not be as brooding.  Just like in the comic book world, where we have many types of takes on Batman all ranging from deadly serious to more family friendly, I think we are going to be seeing a more lighter take akin to the 90's animated series.  You have a good balance of darkness with Batman, and more of a Bond type (hell, lets just say it, a Keton Wayne)  feel with Bruce Wayne where it's going to be more casual, going parties, dating the ladies and running his company. 

Ben can do the smoozing playboy.  That's what people see him as, so why not play to it. 

 

Also, a few things to remember, when Keton was tapped to play Batman, people where pissed.  No one thought he could do it, and for my money, he's been the best out of the lot.  I think Bale did an amazing job, but lets face it, he got more flac for his portrayal that he did praise.  Yes, the Nolan films got a heap of praise, but where was it aimed at?  The story, the direction, the realisim, Heath Ledger's Joker, Michael Caine, all the other actors but Bale.  People loved him in the first film, but after that, even though I'm sure they still loved him, what did you hear?  Constant griping over the Batman voice.  The deep, gravely voice no one could understand.    Remember? 

 

I don't want to knock on Bale, but I'm just putting out the facts.  He did a great job, so did Keton.  The others are, well, it's preference.  My wife is a Val fan. :wacko:   Face it, Batman is the new Bond. I think Ben will do just fine.

 

That said, on a side note, I wonder if WB will ever have the balls to do something really daring, like passing the mantle on to another character.  I thought for sure they were setting up JGL to take over at the end of Dark Knight Rises.  



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:24 PM

Simple. Not the same universe.

 

Now, I've never been a big BEN fan, but I will say that what he did with THE TOWN and ARGO are beyond great examples of what he can do both on and off camera. ZACK SNYDER'S MAN OF STEEL has nowhere near the same probability or accountability that THE DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY has. They are two completely different breeds.

 

With that said, you must have someone who is of the same mold has HENRY CAVILL'S Superman, seeing how in this universe Batman & Superman are the same type of hero and are heroes under very different circumstances. The idea is to capture what FRANK MILLER wrote with THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. An older and seasoned Batman, at the top of his game if not on his way out, not to mention the actor must be cut from the same cloth as CAVILL.

 

And I can see him being in the same classification of AFFLECK.

 

I simply believe that this backlash is like what happened with DANIEL CRAIG when he was chosen for BOND. Everyone lost their damn minds and started spouting hate, even if they didn't know who he was.

 

Then, after CASINO ROYALE hit, everyone pretty much ate their words and calmed the hell down. It is only day two.

 

I have full faith in the filmmakers, not to mention CHRISTOPHER NOLAN also still has a hand in the film, so I give them all the support as the die-hard BATMAN fan that I am.

 

I have faith in this project.

 

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:07 AM

And the new Batman is.......Ben Affleck!?! Alright...Let's do what everybody else is doing. Let's talk about it (I don't really want to devote a whole new thread to the topic just yet).

 

Honestly, I'm not that bothered by the idea of Ben Affleck playing Batman. Like I said before....I don't think there will be a better Batman than Bale. And as bad as I wanted Bale to step back into the role, I can't picture his version of the Dark Knight being paired up with Superman or any other superhero in a movie.

 

If you're pro-Ben, say it & back your reasoning for being supportive.  And if you're upset and wanting to sign that petition (yup, rumor is that there's a petition going around to keep Ben from having the part), then WHO would you choose to be Batman?

 

But let's not turn this into a word battle. Let's discuss this like the mature posters we are, shall we? B)  

Don't get me wrong I like Ben Affleck he is a good actor. But I can't see him playing Batman. They need to find someone like christian bale. I think the man himself should try for the part. He was already in the Punisher. But he would probably not have time to do it. How about are friend on here, Tom A. I think he could do it.



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:55 AM

Honestly, I think that every actor to play Batman has done just fine respective to the particular piece and genre and tone: Yes, that's right, including Adam West, Val and George Clooney, and the indecipherable moments of Bale.  And I agree with John and James, the way Keaton, Bale, and Craig for Bond were totally critiqued then embraced.

 

But, of all the works, the Nolan films have been the best, especially the last - truly one of the best movies I have seen in the last few years (I find so much else of what I watch - though enjoyable, fun, and engaging - to be formulaic, predictable and rote by comparison). I also would not want Bale as Batman without Nolan-vision to surround him.

 

It just feels to me like the Marvellian / DC re-makes and re-imaginings keep nipping each other on the heels, like the new Spideys and Supermans and such ... that being said, there is still room in my head for appreciating and separating Raimi-vision, and Webb-vision (the new Spidey guy), Burtons, Schumachers, Nolans, all the Superman directors (Donner! and Singer! and Bears! Oh My!), and now the Zack Snyder vision. I actually am quite fond of Zack Snyder's work from 300 and Watchmen - Sucker Punch was a good kind of nuts! - (haven't seen Supe yet).

 

I thought Ben made a good Daredevil. I enjoyed the character as an adult anti-thesis to Maguire's Spidey at the time and think he just might make a decent Bruce Wayne and Batman. :)



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 01:33 PM

First off, I love what Nolan did with Batman. Love it.  I think it was an excellent choice made at the right time.  They had an amazing crew and showed people that comic films are not all just for kids.  This was dark, gritty and dirty.  A perfect crime film in many ways.  To prove that, go back and swap out Batman with some regular joe, or Joker with some sadistic nutcase sans makeup.  Same story, same events, just take away the costumes.   It's still an amazing film, but now it's a crime film, not a comic book movie.  With the exception of a few elements in the last film, all three you can do this with.  That's what Nolan wanted to do, and he did a fantastic job.  

 

I think Ben is a good choice.  Way out of left field, but it makes sense.  Plus, I think it's time he got out of movie jail.  His directing skills are amazing, way better than most career directors out there.  His acting, that's up for debate.  I can see him doing this.  I don't want to look ingnorant, but how hard is it to play Batman?  He has the look (built, strong chin) and he can be monotone.  He can yell.  Okay, I'm really downplaying that, but seriously, the trick for Affleck is being a good Bruce Wayne and getting good material. 

 

Ben has done action films, he knows the ropes.  I am willing to bet WB are going to go for something a tad bit lighter in tone this go round.  They want to be Marvel and they want to build up to Justice Leauge.  How do they do that?  Not be as brooding.  Just like in the comic book world, where we have many types of takes on Batman all ranging from deadly serious to more family friendly, I think we are going to be seeing a more lighter take akin to the 90's animated series.  You have a good balance of darkness with Batman, and more of a Bond type (hell, lets just say it, a Keton Wayne)  feel with Bruce Wayne where it's going to be more casual, going parties, dating the ladies and running his company. 

Ben can do the smoozing playboy.  That's what people see him as, so why not play to it. 

 

Also, a few things to remember, when Keton was tapped to play Batman, people where pissed.  No one thought he could do it, and for my money, he's been the best out of the lot.  I think Bale did an amazing job, but lets face it, he got more flac for his portrayal that he did praise.  Yes, the Nolan films got a heap of praise, but where was it aimed at?  The story, the direction, the realisim, Heath Ledger's Joker, Michael Caine, all the other actors but Bale.  People loved him in the first film, but after that, even though I'm sure they still loved him, what did you hear?  Constant griping over the Batman voice.  The deep, gravely voice no one could understand.    Remember? 

 

I don't want to knock on Bale, but I'm just putting out the facts.  He did a great job, so did Keton.  The others are, well, it's preference.  My wife is a Val fan. :wacko:   Face it, Batman is the new Bond. I think Ben will do just fine.

 

That said, on a side note, I wonder if WB will ever have the balls to do something really daring, like passing the mantle on to another character.  I thought for sure they were setting up JGL to take over at the end of Dark Knight Rises.  

 

How hard is it to play Batman? :P Good point…except the heat. My God, the heat! 
 
There are certain actors I wouldn’t want donning the suit, but Ben Affleck isn’t someone on that list.  I don’t know if he can pull it off 100% successfully, but I’m not going to underestimate him simply because he’s Ben Affleck.  He’s been quite a target in the Biz. People still bring up Gigli (yeah, I know…even I just did). People didn’t embrace Daredevil, which I actually enjoyed. It doesn’t effect my day that Ben is going to play a comic book character.  Who knows? Maybe it’s been his dream to play the role, and he’s just now getting the chance.
 
When I found out about Ben getting the role, the first thing I thought of was his strong chin. :P  And his voice…I do like Ben’s voice….So, I’m curious as to what voice his Batman will have. 
 
I believe you’re right about the direction of their going for a lighter Batman movie. I just hope it doesn’t turn into a total cheesy one-liner fest (“This is why Superman works alone“). 
 
Yeah, I know about all of the flak Bale got for his Batman voice, which I will forever defend. You can’t have Batman sounding like Bruce Wayne….And if you do, you shouldn’t. ….And I understand him perfectly, as long as, there’s no music drowning him out.
 
I think Bale’s weight gain/loss and voice overshadowed his performance for critics and moviegoers, but Bale did for the hero what others didn’t…He made me love both Bruce Wayne and Batman EQUALLY. 
 
 
Adam West………Haven’t seen enough to make a judgment (can’t seem to remember his Bruce)
 
Michael Keaton…..A better Batman than Bruce Wayne.
 
Val Kilmer…..A better Batman than Bruce Wayne.
 
George Clooney….A better ??? than ??? (I can’t decide which one’s better.....or worse) 

 

 

Simple. Not the same universe.

 

Now, I've never been a big BEN fan, but I will say that what he did with THE TOWN and ARGO are beyond great examples of what he can do both on and off camera. ZACK SNYDER'S MAN OF STEEL has nowhere near the same probability or accountability that THE DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY has. They are two completely different breeds.

 

With that said, you must have someone who is of the same mold has HENRY CAVILL'S Superman, seeing how in this universe Batman & Superman are the same type of hero and are heroes under very different circumstances. The idea is to capture what FRANK MILLER wrote with THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. An older and seasoned Batman, at the top of his game if not on his way out, not to mention the actor must be cut from the same cloth as CAVILL.

 

And I can see him being in the same classification of AFFLECK.

 

I simply believe that this backlash is like what happened with DANIEL CRAIG when he was chosen for BOND. Everyone lost their damn minds and started spouting hate, even if they didn't know who he was.

 

Then, after CASINO ROYALE hit, everyone pretty much ate their words and calmed the hell down. It is only day two.

 

I have full faith in the filmmakers, not to mention CHRISTOPHER NOLAN also still has a hand in the film, so I give them all the support as the die-hard BATMAN fan that I am.

 

I have faith in this project.

 

-JIM

 

I didn’t see The Town, but I love Ben’s Argo.  I didn't see Henry Cavill’s Superman in Man of Steel. Nothing against the actor; I'm just not a fan of S-man.  
 
Oh, yes. People were so angry about Daniel Craig playing Bond because of his hair color (his hair color!?)  And I know exactly what happened….Craig gave us a wonderful Bond (and my personal fave of all).  Though, I also remember after Casino Royale blew our minds, Quantum of Solace made us yawn, and then Skyfall brought back it’s A-game (or rather B-game). ;) The point is, anything can happen…Even when one film gets praise, it doesn't mean another will do as well…A sequel can redeem a franchise or kill it. 
 
Is this Batman Vs. Superman a sequel in a trilogy?
 
Ben Affleck being cast has definitely made the upcoming flick sound interesting. And I didn’t think I’d be interested at all in a new non-Bale Batman.

 

 

Don't get me wrong I like Ben Affleck he is a good actor. But I can't see him playing Batman. They need to find someone like christian bale. I think the man himself should try for the part. He was already in the Punisher. But he would probably not have time to do it. How about are friend on here, Tom A. I think he could do it.

 

I understand. There's nothing wrong with liking an actor in one thing and not in another. Ben is a great actor and director and writer….Then, why can’t he be an onscreen hero, too? (just my thoughts...not what you should have to think). I wouldn’t want a Christian Bale wannabe, and I doubt Ben has any intention of portraying Bale’s Batman. I think he’d want to add his own touch to a beloved comic book character.
 
Thomas Jane as Batman…..Hmmm…..I’d rather see TJane as a villain against Batman or any other superhero. :D
 

 

Honestly, I think that every actor to play Batman has done just fine respective to the particular piece and genre and tone: Yes, that's right, including Adam West, Val and George Clooney, and the indecipherable moments of Bale.  And I agree with John and James, the way Keaton, Bale, and Craig for Bond were totally critiqued then embraced.

 

But, of all the works, the Nolan films have been the best, especially the last - truly one of the best movies I have seen in the last few years (I find so much else of what I watch - though enjoyable, fun, and engaging - to be formulaic, predictable and rote by comparison). I also would not want Bale as Batman without Nolan-vision to surround him.

 

It just feels to me like the Marvellian / DC re-makes and re-imaginings keep nipping each other on the heels, like the new Spideys and Supermans and such ... that being said, there is still room in my head for appreciating and separating Raimi-vision, and Webb-vision (the new Spidey guy), Burtons, Schumachers, Nolans, all the Superman directors (Donner! and Singer! and Bears! Oh My!), and now the Zack Snyder vision. I actually am quite fond of Zack Snyder's work from 300 and Watchmen - Sucker Punch was a good kind of nuts! - (haven't seen Supe yet).

 

I thought Ben made a good Daredevil. I enjoyed the character as an adult anti-thesis to Maguire's Spidey at the time and think he just might make a decent Bruce Wayne and Batman. :)

 

Nolan & Bale did make Batman magic together. Are you saying you enjoyed The Dark Knight Rises more than The Dark Knight? If so, I’ve never heard anyone rank ‘em like that before. :)
 
How many series of Batman comic books are there and how many issues and counting of each one? I don’t know the exact number without Googling the info, but I doubt Bale would be up for making Batman movies for the rest of his life. I just don’t like how they don’t leave enough space in between the revisions of the same comic book characters, especially when the characters who haven’t had movies aren’t getting made.
 
Thank you to all for sharing your thoughts/opinions....Keep it up! I want to hear even more takes on the topic. 


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:50 PM

One thing that no one has even thought of is that this isn't a BATMAN film and this isn't a SUPERMAN film. It is a counterbalance.

 

An equilibrium with both characters carrying their weight, hand and hand. One mustn't outshine the other. They must collide as FRANK MILLER wrote them.

 

But, the route that is being done with THE AVENGERS sequel and the new X-MEN film (where two different actors portray the same character of QUICKSILVER) could also mean that BEN AFFLECK'S BATMAN could be one incarnation at the same time of another BATMAN flick or DC produced film that stars another actor as THE DARK KNIGHT.

 

I really wouldn't be surprised because, honestly, it would work and people would accept it. I see AFFLECK'S BATMAN as possibly just being in this set SUPERMAN "MAN OF STEEL" universe which ZACK SNYDER as so gratuitously set up.R

 

RYAN GOSLING was the original choice, and was picked early on. But, he did not accept due to the fact that apparently he does not like the possibility of sequels. And I could buy GOSLING as BATMAN. He's who I wanted, with all due respect. I think he could pull off so many layers of THE CAPED CRUSADER that honestly hasn't even been tapped yet.

 

There are so many stories of BATMAN that the possibilities are more than endless.

 

That being said, in this universe I can also accept the AFFLECK incarnation as well.

 

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 09:00 PM

I still haven't seen Man of Steel, so I don't have any kind of real benchmark for how Snyder handled this world. But I suspect, well I HOPE we're going to get something close to his take on Rorschach with Batman. I would be happy with that, regardless of who is playing him. Well . . .

 

James, buddy, I can't even tell you how happy I am that Gosling is not Batman. I'm just not a fan of his in any way shape or form. I know I'm kind of solo on that around here, but it's how I feel. I think Gosling is too young to play the Batman they talked about anyway.

 

Affleck, I'm just indifferent enough to be interested to see where it goes. I'm not a fan of his, but I do like The Town, and Argo. But it's just impossible not to have a clear and stinging mental picture of the crushing awkwardness that was his portrayal of Daredevil when you imagine him as Batman. The characters are so close in so many ways. So I get it. I get the petitions, I understand why people are dropping to their knees and crying out to the heavens. I also think it's kind of funny.

 

In the meantime, I recently watched Batman Year One on netflix and I just fell in love with it. So, if you need a fix that will not disappoint, check this out. It's a nearly word for word adaptation of the comic too, which I can't get enough of.

 

 

 

 

Also, I mentioned this on FB. You guys remember those Ben Affleck is directing Justice League rumors? I kind of scoffed at those rumors, and he denied them if memory serves. Was that just a misunderstanding? Or could it be true?



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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:36 AM

There are some more reports out about the Affleck deal.  It looks like Snyder approched him several months back (which would be around the time the JL movie was offered to him) and Ben agreed on a few conditions from Warner Bros. : He gets to have a say in the script and it would be a multi-picture deal.

 

While the muti-picture deal was a given, I think the fact that Ben having a say in the script says a lot.  First off, The Town and Argo were made at WB. They know what he can do behind the camera and he's made them some money and awards.  Ben has regained some pull again with his directing, so if there was a "yes" said to the JL film, of course they would give Ben some say in how the rest of the DC heros films played out.  WB is getting desperate to get JL going.  Everyone saw what Marvel did to get to The Avengers, they had a plan and put it together nicley.  This could be WB getting everyone on the same page. 



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Posted 25 August 2013 - 11:44 AM

I still haven't seen Man of Steel, so I don't have any kind of real benchmark for how Snyder handled this world. But I suspect, well I HOPE we're going to get something close to his take on Rorschach with Batman. I would be happy with that, regardless of who is playing him. Well . . .

 

James, buddy, I can't even tell you how happy I am that Gosling is not Batman. I'm just not a fan of his in any way shape or form. I know I'm kind of solo on that around here, but it's how I feel. I think Gosling is too young to play the Batman they talked about anyway.

 

Affleck, I'm just indifferent enough to be interested to see where it goes. I'm not a fan of his, but I do like The Town, and Argo. But it's just impossible not to have a clear and stinging mental picture of the crushing awkwardness that was his portrayal of Daredevil when you imagine him as Batman. The characters are so close in so many ways. So I get it. I get the petitions, I understand why people are dropping to their knees and crying out to the heavens. I also think it's kind of funny.

 

In the meantime, I recently watched Batman Year One on netflix and I just fell in love with it. So, if you need a fix that will not disappoint, check this out. It's a nearly word for word adaptation of the comic too, which I can't get enough of.

 

 

 

 

Also, I mentioned this on FB. You guys remember those Ben Affleck is directing Justice League rumors? I kind of scoffed at those rumors, and he denied them if memory serves. Was that just a misunderstanding? Or could it be true?

Noeland, I know that I was probably alone with the GOSLING opinion. But, all I can say to justify is it is that I have just been a fan of his since MURDER BY NUMBERS. I grew up loving BATMAN, and honestly I just always wanted to see GOSLING play a YEAR ONE/FRANK MILLER inspired BATMAN. And I know that it is a stretch, or a lonely opinion, but it was certainly worth the shout out ;)

 

Anyway, GOSLING wouldn't be the one I'd want for this though. As you said, age is an issue.

 

With AFFLECK I just see him actually being like what he did with HOLLYWOODLAND in both playing the actor who portrayed SUPERMAN and also actually portraying SUPERMAN. That film wasn't widely received or even seen. I really liked it though. He had a lot to work with and he really showed what he could do with playing multilayer characters. It was like his real life alias, and the story that went with it was very intriguing. Reminded me of a better THE BLACK DAHLIA. It is certainly worth a watch.

 

Also, the animated YEAR ONE was amazing. And THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS with PETER WELLER voicing BATMAN was sensational in both style and quality adaptation.

 

I just see AFFLECK as being that BATMAN that you saw from childhood. The animated series, and the various action figures. He seems like that type of hero that will be borderline with everything. But, then again I am a huge fan of THE TOWN.

 

So, it might just be me.

 

Either way, I love talking about it. People have been arguing with me all day at work about it. These are also the people who have liked some really horrible films as well. :blink:

 

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:13 AM

One thing that no one has even thought of is that this isn't a BATMAN film and this isn't a SUPERMAN film. It is a counterbalance.

 

An equilibrium with both characters carrying their weight, hand and hand. One mustn't outshine the other. They must collide as FRANK MILLER wrote them.

 

But, the route that is being done with THE AVENGERS sequel and the new X-MEN film (where two different actors portray the same character of QUICKSILVER) could also mean that BEN AFFLECK'S BATMAN could be one incarnation at the same time of another BATMAN flick or DC produced film that stars another actor as THE DARK KNIGHT.

 

I really wouldn't be surprised because, honestly, it would work and people would accept it. I see AFFLECK'S BATMAN as possibly just being in this set SUPERMAN "MAN OF STEEL" universe which ZACK SNYDER as so gratuitously set up.R

 

RYAN GOSLING was the original choice, and was picked early on. But, he did not accept due to the fact that apparently he does not like the possibility of sequels. And I could buy GOSLING as BATMAN. He's who I wanted, with all due respect. I think he could pull off so many layers of THE CAPED CRUSADER that honestly hasn't even been tapped yet.

 

There are so many stories of BATMAN that the possibilities are more than endless.

 

That being said, in this universe I can also accept the AFFLECK incarnation as well.

 

-JIM

 

I thought this movie was going to be a Man of Steel sequel that would have more of Superman in it.  
 
I hope they don’t do so many Batman movies at the same time…I don’t want to be able to add three different Batman performances to the list by 2020.  
 
I like Ryan Gosling a lot, but when I heard his name mentioned for Batman, I just thought they wanted him because he’s become the It Guy and not because he’d make a good Batman….I don’t think age matters too much….He could transform into any age he wants, really….If anything, he would make more sense as a Batman with his own movie.
 
I think they should get a new Superman….But that’s my opinion based on the trailer of Man of Steel and not being “wowed” by Cavill right away. Those who have seen his version of Superman…How does he compare/contrast to the others who’ve played him? 
 

 

 

I still haven't seen Man of Steel, so I don't have any kind of real benchmark for how Snyder handled this world. But I suspect, well I HOPE we're going to get something close to his take on Rorschach with Batman. I would be happy with that, regardless of who is playing him. Well . . .

 

James, buddy, I can't even tell you how happy I am that Gosling is not Batman. I'm just not a fan of his in any way shape or form. I know I'm kind of solo on that around here, but it's how I feel. I think Gosling is too young to play the Batman they talked about anyway.

 

Affleck, I'm just indifferent enough to be interested to see where it goes. I'm not a fan of his, but I do like The Town, and Argo. But it's just impossible not to have a clear and stinging mental picture of the crushing awkwardness that was his portrayal of Daredevil when you imagine him as Batman. The characters are so close in so many ways. So I get it. I get the petitions, I understand why people are dropping to their knees and crying out to the heavens. I also think it's kind of funny.

 

In the meantime, I recently watched Batman Year One on netflix and I just fell in love with it. So, if you need a fix that will not disappoint, check this out. It's a nearly word for word adaptation of the comic too, which I can't get enough of.

 

 

 

 

Also, I mentioned this on FB. You guys remember those Ben Affleck is directing Justice League rumors? I kind of scoffed at those rumors, and he denied them if memory serves. Was that just a misunderstanding? Or could it be true?

 

Noeland, you don’t have to be a Gosling fan…And I’m sure you’re not the only person on here who thinks Gosling is a little overrated. It took me some time to come around to him myself…I’m not going to tell you to see any movie of his to change your mind.  I’m just glad Brad Pitt wasn’t chosen….Or Leo Di…yeah, I’m not going there. ;)
 
The petition is pointless. The message it gives off is that there are fans who really don’t want Ben as Batman, which Ben probably woke up the morning of the announcement thinking would happen, anyway.  I bet a lot of the people who sign the petition will go see the movie when it’s released, which is when….2015?  
 
For me, it’s hard to say who would make a great Batman at this point….My brother thinks Jim Caviezel could take on the part. And after thinking about it, yes, he would be a fine choice.  
 
I also remember when people weren’t happy with Heath Ledger playing The Joker because of their thinking, “The guy from Brokeback!? Really?”  And look what he did with that character. So, it’s premature to underestimate Ben BEFORE anything has been filmed and seen.
 
Daredevil = Blind
 
Batman = Blind as a bat
 
What similarities are we talkin’ here? ;) I do remember thinking that Daredevil looked like a demonized Batman minus the bat ears.

 

There are some more reports out about the Affleck deal.  It looks like Snyder approched him several months back (which would be around the time the JL movie was offered to him) and Ben agreed on a few conditions from Warner Bros. : He gets to have a say in the script and it would be a multi-picture deal.

 

While the muti-picture deal was a given, I think the fact that Ben having a say in the script says a lot.  First off, The Town and Argo were made at WB. They know what he can do behind the camera and he's made them some money and awards.  Ben has regained some pull again with his directing, so if there was a "yes" said to the JL film, of course they would give Ben some say in how the rest of the DC heros films played out.  WB is getting desperate to get JL going.  Everyone saw what Marvel did to get to The Avengers, they had a plan and put it together nicley.  This could be WB getting everyone on the same page. 

 

Ben Affleck directing Justice League movies…..Now, I’d be game for that.





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