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Here are a couple of YouTube vids that may explain why some people climbed so easily onto the Ray Stevenson bandwagon. In the vid from King Arthur, the aspect ratio is messed up, elongating the people. But it works, I think. Oh! That metal-studded vest he wears in King Arthur...I OWN that. Oof!

 

From Rome:

 

 

And from King Arthur:

 

 

Hope you enjoy these. And if you not seen Rome, you're in for a treat: two seasons, 22 hours in total.

 

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Tim, any chance that after the poster is shown at ComiCon that we'll be able to see it here? I'm dying to see what you have come up with.

 

OF COURSE!

I'll ask LGF if I can show it to you guys Wednesday night, otherwise I won't be able to post until late Sunday as I'm staying downtown.

 

Cavella/Jigsaw.

Which villain would make make a better splash on screen in a Punisher film?

No doubt that Cavella is interesting and would make a good antagonist.

But folks, the chance to show off Jigsaw on the big screen is almost too good to pass up.

Max, or no Max.

It's as close as the Punisher gets to a super villain these days.

I hope you guys dig the make-up. What I saw looked disgustingly cool and fits the film.

 

I wish I could share one of the scenes I saw (in the form of production stills).

In a word . . . Holy Shit.

OK, that's two words.

;)

 

- TB

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Thanks Nomad, I've yet to see Rome though I've heard good things. GREAT CLIP. Stevenson is a vicious fuck in that. I'm also a huge fan of "Disturbed". :)

 

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Thanks Nomad, I've yet to see Rome though I've heard good things. GREAT CLIP. Stevenson is a vicious fuck in that. I'm also a huge fan of "Disturbed". :)

 

Fred

 

Thanks, Fred. I'm glad you liked that. I have only one more I think you should see. In this scene, Pullo is seriously dis-chuffed with the local crime lord. You'll see he actually bites the tongue from the crime lord's mouth and spits it in the street!

 

In this vid, the action doesn't happen until about the three minute mark. Somebody else may have chosen to cut this one differently.

 

 

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My favorite episode has to be Season 2, Episode 1.

But the episode would not play as well without having watched all of season 1.

BRUTAL.

 

I remember watching the opening credits and seeing that Tim Van Patten was the director . . . The same Tim Van Patten who's father played the dad on Eight Is Enough, the same Tim Van Patten who's brother Vincent was a teen heartthrob and a regular subject of such teen mags like Tiger Beat (my sister was an avid reader), The same Tim Van Patten that played "Salami" on The White Shadow back in the 70's. I was prepared for the worst and what I got was one of the best hours on television ever.

 

Then I found out that he directed 20 episodes of The Sopranos. Also worked on The Wire and Deadwood.

So long Salami, hello Emmy.

 

No more watching clips! You guys (n gals) go rent it or buy it.

You won't be disappointed.

 

And while we're on the subject . . . Kevin McKidd ROCKS.

Fucking crime that Journeyman was yanked.

I think I just made a pun ;)

 

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OF COURSE!

I'll ask LGF if I can show it to you guys Wednesday night, otherwise I won't be able to post until late Sunday as I'm staying downtown.

 

Cavella/Jigsaw.

Which villain would make make a better splash on screen in a Punisher film?

No doubt that Cavella is interesting and would make a good antagonist.

But folks, the chance to show off Jigsaw on the big screen is almost too good to pass up.

Max, or no Max.

It's as close as the Punisher gets to a super villain these days.

I hope you guys dig the make-up. What I saw looked disgustingly cool and fits the film.

 

I wish I could share one of the scenes I saw (in the form of production stills).

In a word . . . Holy Shit.

OK, that's two words.

;)

 

- TB

 

See the thing I'm worried about, if IMDb is to be trusted, is Cavella being wasted like Maginty (like I said, he was pretty much as Jigsaw's bitch) or the Bulats.

 

Also, Journeyman really was a good show, that got better and better as the episodes went along. But I do feel that the last shot of the last episode was a pretty good way for the show to end.

 

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See the thing I'm worried about, if IMDb is to be trusted, is Cavella being wasted like Maginty (like I said, he was pretty much as Jigsaw's bitch) or the Bulats.

 

Also, Journeyman really was a good show, that got better and better as the episodes went along. But I do feel that the last shot of the last episode was a pretty good way for the show to end.

 

Well, it sounds like Cavella will be played down since it seems like he's not a major character here.

I'm looking forward to seeing Pitsy and Ink. Keram Malicki-Sánchez is going to go places.

I'm also anxious to see Doug Hutchinson steal the movie. Love that guy.

 

Journeyman, I totally agree. Thankfully they played it smart. The last episode was PERFECT.

Unlike Deadwood, which just stopped. No resolutions, no nothing, just . . . Disappointing.

And yes, Journeyman just got better and better. Pretty amazing for a show in it's first season to find it's legs so fast.

That made the cancellation much harder to understand, and even harder to swallow.

 

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With Deadwood, I was able to give it a bit of leeway, because I read that there were plans to to finish up the loose ends with like 3 movies for HBO. But when that didn't happen, it was really fuck!?!?!

 

A fucking heartbreaker to be sure.

 

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Ha! I'm totally caught by the Lee!

 

Tim Van Patten is actually Dick Van Patten's half brother!

Vincent Van Patten's half uncle.

 

He's so much younger than Dick I'd always assumed it was his son.

 

Learn something new everyday . . . Not that anyone actually cares :P

 

- Tb

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I'll be looking forward to seeing it Tim!

 

As for Jigsaw, I really wished Ennis would have used him. I know he's the closest thing to a supervillian Punisher has, but he is just a guy. I'm sure Ennis' take would have been amazingly insane. Plus, we get to miss out on Tim's take :( . Maybe sometime in the future.

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Oh man, that is something I'd have loved to do (Jigsaw on a cover).

One of the biggest disappointments for me when Jane dropped out of the sequel was missing out on getting a chance to do some concept design on Jigsaw for the film.

I'd have had the opportunity to be involved on that level this time and I had some pretty fun ideas, one of which was going very realistic with the facial design, ala Mason Verger in Hannibal. Actually, kind of a cross between that and what they ended up doing for Warzone.

 

I won't even bring up the casting we were throwing around. It would just make us weep.

Nothing against Dominic mind you. I'm sure he was up for the challenge. Interested to see what he did with it.

 

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No, Dominic seems like the right choice for Russo(ti), but now I would really love to hear some of the names that were being tossed around.

 

The only other name I remember was Paddy Considine, but that only lasted for about a minute.

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Out of the entire cast of Warzone, West was probably the one guy I really didn't mind because I never really cared about the Jigsaw character.

 

As far as I'm concerned, The Punisher's true enemy is crime.

 

I feel LGF's obsession with giving him a "nemesis" is just fuckin pointless and played out.

 

I had much more confidence [in an uninterested fashion] for West than I ever did for Stevenson.

 

That was until I saw that shot of West in the Trailer were he looks like something out of House Of The Dead.

 

*Kreigkopf woulda made great opposition for Castle. Specially if they cast a big name to play him - like Harrison Ford or Bruce Willis.

 

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TL, but surely you agree that every hero is only cool in relation to the caliber of their villain. I mean Holmes needed Moriarty just like Capt Hammer needs Dr. Horrible. :P More to your tastes...Wolverine needs a badass like Sabertooth to tangle with. Batman needs the JOKER.

 

That may explain some of the popularity problems with the Punisher. Jigsaw is as close as he has to a nemesis...and so far he hasn't been capitalized on in the films. Saint was okay...

 

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I've never been a fan of Jigsaw. Yes, he's the closest thing Castle has to a nemesis, but I agree with TL on this one. His true enemy is and always will be CRIME.

 

And Fred, have you ever fired a 500 smith? There is no double tapping my friend.

 

 

Too much power and recoil to line up that second shot and fire it quickly enough.

 

 

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I've never been a fan of Jigsaw. Yes, he's the closest thing Castle has to a nemesis, but I agree with TL on this one. His true enemy is and always will be CRIME.

 

And Fred, have you ever fired a 500 smith? There is no double tapping my friend.

 

 

Too much power and recoil to line up that second shot and fire it quickly enough.

 

 

Njc-----------

 

No...but I'm not FRANK FUCKING CASTLE BABY!!!

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No...but I'm not FRANK FUCKING CASTLE BABY!!!

 

Good point Fred. What was I thinking? Castle could double tap with a fucking howitzer and it only takes one shell!!!

 

;)

 

 

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Now that Hollywood seems to understand that comic book fans are demanding QUALITY interpretations of comic books, it looks like we're going to be getting some...at least until they get lazy and start to think they can toss anything at us and get away with it. If we keep demanding quality, maybe we'll keep getting it. And now maybe Preacher will move foreward?

 

The Dark Knight: Heath Ledger's Batman movie smashes box office records

By Catherine Elsworth in Los Angeles

Last Updated: 8:33PM BST 20/07/2008

The Dark Knight, the new Batman film, has set a record at the US box office, smashing the opening-weekend high of last year's Spiderman 3 to take more than $155 million in its first three days.

 

Heath Ledger in his role as The Joker in the new Batman movie Dark Knight

Described as the year's most anticipated film, the superhero sequel from English filmmaker Christopher Nolan attracted sell-out audiences at a record number of cinemas across the US. Many hosted round-the-clock screenings from midnight on Thursday to accommodate crowds, some of whom showed up dressed as characters from the film.

 

Warner Bros said the $180 million production, which co-stars the late Heath Ledger as the Joker, was set to take $155.3 million in ticket sales, surpassing Sony's Spiderman 3 which made $151.1 million in its debut weekend last May.

 

The film's extraordinary debut suggests it could be on course to become the most lucrative comic book adaptation in history. It also demonstrates how central the once-niche genre now is to Hollywood, with major studios increasingly looking to the heroes and villains of hand-drawn strips to provide a stream of box office hits.

 

The Dark Knight, which opens in the UK this week, takes to five the number of comic book or graphic novel-based films that have dominated the box office in recent weeks, together generating more than a half a billion dollars in the US alone.

 

It comes hard on the heels of Universal's blockbuster Iron Man, which has made more than $313 million in the US and $565 million worldwide, as well as recent releases Hellboy II, The Incredible Hulk and Wanted, based on Scottish author Mark Millar's graphic novel.

 

Sequels to this year's hits are already planned and dozens more comic book-based offerings are in the pipeline.

 

"They have become Hollywood's safety nets," said Jeff Bock, of box office analysts Exhibitor Relations, who estimates comic book releases could account for up to a fifth of box office receipts this year, on course to total around $10 billion.

 

"During the course of the summer for the last couple of years we've expected to have two or three of these films. But the number this year shows there's huge demand. Every studio wants to have their hands in the comic book business."

 

Previews of some of the next wave of films will be shown at this week's Comic Con in San Diego, the vast comic book and fantasy convention where Hollywood studios flock to sow the seeds of a viral buzz they hope will turn their projects into hits.

 

They include Watchmen, based on the graphic novel mini-series by Alan Moore, and The Spirit by Frank Miller, the comics legend-turned-director of 300 and Sin City fame, which stars Samuel L Jackson, Scarlett Johansson and Eva Mendes.

 

Marvel Studios, makers of Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, will meanwhile give fans a glimpse of its sequel Punisher: War Zone.

 

The convention is also expected to hear that John Woo will direct an adaptation of the comic book Caliber, a 19th century Western based on King Arthur.

 

All hope to mimic the success of Iron Man and the Spiderman trilogy, which revived the genre in 2002. Since then the Spiderman franchise has made more than $2.5 billion worldwide. Naturally, a fourth film, due out in 2011, is in the works.

 

Industry analysts attribute the appeal of comic book adaptations partly to Hollywood's polished marketing formula for such films, using events such as Comic Con to generate a buzz among ardent fans before a big budget campaign whips interest into a frenzy. (The hype surrounding The Dark Knight sparked the biggest pre-release sale of tickets in history with thousands of screenings sold out before it even opened.)

 

Then there are the endless clear-cut storylines honed over decades, franchise-friendly characters, high-octane action and the fact comic books enable risk-wary studio executives to picture almost exactly what a film will look like.

 

"Now that Hollywood can do them justice (with believable CGI), they are recognising that comic books are ready-made for the big screen," said Jim Littler, editor of Comicbookmovie.com. "If you look at any comic book, it is nearly a shot-by-shot storyboard just waiting to be filmed."

 

Today's cinema audiences also associate comic book-themed releases with "big tent pole entertainment", said Martin Grove, columnist for the Hollywood Reporter online.

 

"It's understood by people not in the movie business that when a comic book-based movie comes out, that's a big movie. They recognise immediately that this is something we better think about seeing because it's going to be big."

 

The genre has recovered from its low point in 1997 when Joel Schumacher put George Clooney in a nippled bat suit to risible effect.

 

Other notable duds include 2004's Catwoman, starring Halle Berry, Flash Gordon in 1980, and Supergirl in 1984, which made only $14 million.

 

But Hollywood has learned from its mistakes, commentators say, with studios making every effort to select the right director and actors for projects and jettisoning the campy tone of earlier films. Robin is long gone as Bruce Wayne's sidekick and releases now adopt a much grittier tone in keeping with contemporary fears and sensibilities, Mr Grove said.

 

Despite the recent rash of adaptations - back in 2004 Mr Grove counted at least 70 such films in development - he predicts even more are underway now.

 

"There is no limit to this," said Mr Bock. The two major forces in comics, Marvel Comics and DC Comics, have "thousands of characters to explore and then we're not including Dark Horse and other smaller comics that have started to make an impact as well".

 

He said he expected to see "at least two films a year from Marvel alone and I'm sure DC will follow suit."

 

Specialist "comics-to-film" companies such as Platinum Studios and Kingdom Comics, set up by Disney in May to develop graphic novels that can be turned into films, are also generating new projects.

 

Marvel Studios, which will release another X Men film next year, is also working on Iron Man 2, Thor, from British filmmaker Matthew Vaughn, The First Avenger: Captain America, and The Avengers, due out in 2010 and 2011.

 

Warner Bros, the studio behind The Dark Knight, has meanwhile been sitting down with sister company DC Comics to thrash out "how best to exploit the DC Comics characters and properties".

 

A Superman sequel is said to be in the works as are versions of Justice League and Green Lantern. Other rumoured adaptations include a big screen Wonder Woman, another stab at Flash and even an Aquaman film.

 

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Now that Hollywood seems to understand that comic book fans are demanding QUALITY interpretations of comic books, it looks like we're going to be getting some...at least until they get lazy and start to think they can toss anything at us and get away with it. If we keep demanding quality, maybe we'll keep getting it. And now maybe Preacher will move foreward?

 

Nah, Preacher is (hopefully still) being set up as a series on HBO. Which I think is better than having a film, the story is too big to compact into a 2 hour movie. The only downside about it is Mark Steven Johnson is going to be the showrunner.

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Nah, Preacher is (hopefully still) being set up as a series on HBO. Which I think is better than having a film, the story is too big to compact into a 2 hour movie. The only downside about it is Mark Steven Johnson is going to be the showrunner.

Oh, I wasn't thinking about Preacher for a feature film. Hoping Hollywood "gets it" is meant to apply across the board: film, television, internet, etc. HBO is capable of some great productions, but they fall down on the promotion at the very least. Given the labyrinth that needs to be navigated in order to get an Emmy nomination, a network has to have a level of commitment that HBO just didn't have, especially for Rome, as an example.

 

So, given how they handled both Rome and Deadwood, I'm not too keen on committing myself to another HBO program that may be pulled prematurely as were both of those programs. So I've mixed feelings about Preacher being with HBO.

 

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Yeah, but for everyone Rome or Deadwood, there's a Wire or Curb Your Enthusiasm. The Wire wasn't a big ratings hit and it lasted 5 seasons.

 

Though I still think Lions Gate really just wanted to get War Zone made and not made right.

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