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Just getting the book off to the printer.

This is kind of a director's cut minus some of the harsh language. You'll notice some tiny changes.

Also this full color collection of the first 6 issues features a MASSIVE bonus section filled with concept art, photos, fan art, script pages, 3D model frame caps, rare looks at the cover art from our legendary line-up featuring original pencils, aborted versions, ink studies, prelims, all facing the final versions. Mondo freaking cool. It's like 45 pages of extra stuff and it's fucking BADASS. It's pretty much like an ultimate edition.

 

And the coolest thing about the color collection is the ultra hot original BASIL GOGOS cover art!!!!!!

Introduction by comics legend BRUCE JONES.

 

You do NOT want to miss it.

 

Here's a look at the cover wrap -

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- TB

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Any reason for the dialog change? You guys putting it out yourselves? You aware I bloody well want a copy? I ask too many questions?

 

Alternate versions... Original pencils.... You KNOW all that's right up my alley!

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TJ thought it wise to tone down the language so as to appeal to a broader audience base.

We still have the comics, and the B+W trade which I believe went to collection intact.

 

We are self publishing both collections (as well as Pig Farm), no Image.

 

The Bad Planet complete Volume 1 color Trade edition will be released this summer, probably a few weeks prior to Comicon.

 

Here's a small taste of the extras - Dig.

 

BPcolorTPBbackspread3.jpg

 

 

BPcolorTPBbackspread15.jpg

 

- TB

 

 

 

 

 

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It all looks awesome. Who decided to release the bonus section full of extras and why? Cause I think it's a brilliant idea.

 

 

 

 

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Great idea! I love behind the scenes stuff and all that "how'd-they-do-that" jazz. This looks like it should be awesome and jam-packed with all kinds of goodies. Looking forward to seeing this. (Of course, I have to get my B&W version of the trade first. ^_^ )

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TJ thought it wise to tone down the language so as to appeal to a broader audience base.

We still have the comics, and the B+W trade which I believe went to collection intact.

 

We are self publishing both collections (as well as Pig Farm), no Image.

 

The Bad Planet complete Volume 1 color Trade edition will be released this summer, probably a few weeks prior to Comicon.

 

- TB

 

 

Yep, you just got some more of my money. Just say when, and I'll rip the cash right out of my wallet.

 

Ah, that makes sense. Just as long as you're not having the characters say "What the Frog!"... then again, that would be pretty funny.

 

Oooooh, are we getting all the sketches from the B&W book that everyone ordered? It would be a damn shame to keep them just to us respective owners.

 

So far, looks like a nice high quality book!

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It all looks awesome. Who decided to release the bonus section full of extras and why? Cause I think it's a brilliant idea.

 

I'll toot my own horn for a moment . . . ;)

TJ asked me to design up the front and back of the book like I did with the black and white.

He wanted me to do something along the same lines with a cover gallery again only this time with all the cover art in color, free of trade dress.

I started doing all of that and during the process I thought, How cool would it be to see all the effort that went into doing the cover art?

So I started tracking down prelims, pencils, even ink roughs. I thought it would be massively cool if we made our gallery special and included the extra art, FACING each finished version.

 

THAT got me started with the idea of pulling out all the stops and showcasing all of the REST of the unseen work, from concept designs to freaking collecting all the Ad Art.

I just started putting all of that together and designed a whole entire look for the back end of the book. It just kept growing.

Then I realized I hadn't even asked TJ if we could do all of that, suddenly hoped I hadn't wasted a shitload of time.

So I sent him jpegs of all the spreads I'd worked up. He was blown away so it was decided YES, let's do this.

 

It ended up adding around 40 pages to the collection which means it's a lot more expensive to print than it would have been.

But that's what I love about working with Tom, the bottom line isn't necessarily $, it's always about quality, and offering the kinds of things WE'D like to see ourselves.

It's why we began this whole RAW thing in the first place.

 

We can't go broke doing it either, what'd be the use of that?

So the book will end up retailing for a bit more than it would have, but we're keeping the price as low as we possibly can.

Just hope the whole scheme doesn't backfire and be too expensive for the casual buyer.

As soon as we have a retail price in cement I'll let you all know. Should be any day now.

 

All that aside, we're over the moon excited about the complete color trade edition!

 

- TB

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Oooooh, are we getting all the sketches from the B&W book that everyone ordered? It would be a damn shame to keep them just to us respective owners.

 

I believe that the two sketches pictured are the only Daly sketches from the Black and White - Forum orders.

Space was a factor, so I grabbed two images and crammed them in.

I'd show you the fan art page which consists of the winning entries from our Bad Planet art contest but I don't want to ruin the surprise ;)

 

I'll pass along full specs on the color edition as soon as we get this off to the printer later this week.

 

 

- TB

 

PS - There will be no 3D in this edition, so you won't need special glasses to see all of the pages and other art that was originally presented in 3D in issue #3.

PSS - Please take a second to look at the cover page to the cover gallery - I took special pains to connect some of the imagery to it's earlier stage -

My own cover, Wrightson's, Schultz's, and Stevens' artwork, starts in color and then continues in the next frame as pencils or inks. Fun!

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I'll toot my own horn for a moment . . . ;)

TJ asked me to design up the front and back of the book like I did with the black and white.

He wanted me to do something along the same lines with a cover gallery again only this time with all the cover art in color, free of trade dress.

I started doing all of that and during the process I thought, How cool would it be to see all the effort that went into doing the cover art?

So I started tracking down prelims, pencils, even ink roughs. I thought it would be massively cool if we made our gallery special and included the extra art, FACING each finished version.

 

THAT got me started with the idea of pulling out all the stops and showcasing all of the REST of the unseen work, from concept designs to freaking collecting all the Ad Art.

I just started putting all of that together and designed a whole entire look for the back end of the book. It just kept growing.

Then I realized I hadn't even asked TJ if we could do all of that, suddenly hoped I hadn't wasted a shitload of time.

So I sent him jpegs of all the spreads I'd worked up. He was blown away so it was decided YES, let's do this.

 

It ended up adding around 40 pages to the collection which means it's a lot more expensive to print than it would have been.

But that's what I love about working with Tom, the bottom line isn't necessarily $, it's always about quality, and offering the kinds of things WE'D like to see ourselves.

It's why we began this whole RAW thing in the first place.

 

We can't go broke doing it either, what'd be the use of that?

So the book will end up retailing for a bit more than it would have, but we're keeping the price as low as we possibly can.

Just hope the whole scheme doesn't backfire and be too expensive for the casual buyer.

As soon as we have a retail price in cement I'll let you all know. Should be any day now.

 

All that aside, we're over the moon excited about the complete color trade edition!

 

- TB

 

Great call, Tim!!!

 

I think by having the extras, it makes it all the more special.

I don't personally know Tom, but I wouldn't think he's the kind of guy who would let you spend all of that time putting a collection together and then telling you to forget about doing it.

 

One of the reasons I love and respect RAW is that it's all about producing a product you like and enjoy yourself. As long as you find a way to do what you love and make that a career, you've figured out the best way to live life.

 

I'm not surprised that the retail price is going to be high. If it costs more to make, it has to cost more for people to buy. That's just how it is.

I'm a little curious about how much a book like this costs to print? If you don't want to share that amount, you don't have to. I've just often wondered about these kinds of things. Money may not be a big concern for you and Tom, but it's always been the issue that holds me back from accomplishing my goals. I have a vision, but money kills my dreams.

 

 

 

 

 

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Great call, Tim!!!

 

I think by having the extras, it makes it all the more special.

I don't personally know Tom, but I wouldn't think he's the kind of guy who would let you spend all of that time putting a collection together and then telling you to forget about doing it.

 

One of the reasons I love and respect RAW is that it's all about producing a product you like and enjoy yourself. As long as you find a way to do what you love and make that a career, you've figured out the best way to live life.

 

I'm not surprised that the retail price is going to be high. If it costs more to make, it has to cost more for people to buy. That's just how it is.

I'm a little curious about how much a book like this costs to print? If you don't want to share that amount, you don't have to. I've just often wondered about these kinds of things. Money may not be a big concern for you and Tom, but it's always been the issue that holds me back from accomplishing my goals. I have a vision, but money kills my dreams.

 

 

Thank you kindly, IFC -

 

Just so we all know the score here, Money IS a big concern for me ;)

I'm not the guy with the hit HBO show. I'm no different from you guys. Every month is a struggle lately.

 

Now for the good news, the book will not be over-pricey because of the additional pages.

A normal trade paperback retails for around $17.95 for even a collected 4 issue series.

The Bad Planet trade is 6 issues worth and will retail for $19.95! So we were able to keep it under 20 bucks ;)

 

Pricing this stuff affordably and making a profit in this climate is tough business.

Retail price may be $20 for the rest of the purchasing world but we have to offer discounts to distributors, the wholesale price.

Traditionally a distributor like Diamond demands a 60% discount off retail AND all this shit is returnable.

If having your sales returned wasn't bad enough they also charge you again for each return.

 

The books are top quality, great paper, great binding, etc . . . We have everything printed in Korea at Tri-Vision, where we can get a fair deal and what we feel is superior quality.

Nice paper, nice cover stock, top of the line binding is expensive. We could do these things cheap and widen our profit margin but we're more about the quality of book we put out there than trying to make easy money. Not sure of the per unit cost of this book but traditionally you'd want to at least make back double what we paid for them . . . So . . .

 

We'll be lucky to break even in the short term, meaning this year.

This is why it's so hard for small publishers.

Luckily TJ doesn't give a damn.

We could do a whole lot better if more people knew about the book, so please, spread the love.

 

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Thank you kindly, IFC -

 

Just so we all know the score here, Money IS a big concern for me ;)

I'm not the guy with the hit HBO show. I'm no different from you guys. Every month is a struggle lately.

 

Now for the good news, the book will not be over-pricey because of the additional pages.

A normal trade paperback retails for around $17.95 for even a collected 4 issue series.

The Bad Planet trade is 6 issues worth and will retail for $19.95! So we were able to keep it under 20 bucks ;)

 

Pricing this stuff affordably and making a profit in this climate is tough business.

Retail price may be $20 for the rest of the purchasing world but we have to offer discounts to distributors, the wholesale price.

Traditionally a distributor like Diamond demands a 60% discount off retail AND all this shit is returnable.

If having your sales returned wasn't bad enough they also charge you again for each return.

 

The books are top quality, great paper, great binding, etc . . . We have everything printed in Korea at Tri-Vision, where we can get a fair deal and what we feel is superior quality.

Nice paper, nice cover stock, top of the line binding is expensive. We could do these things cheap and widen our profit margin but we're more about the quality of book we put out there than trying to make easy money. Not sure of the per unit cost of this book but traditionally you'd want to at least make back double what we paid for them . . . So . . .

 

We'll be lucky to break even in the short term, meaning this year.

This is why it's so hard for small publishers.

Luckily TJ doesn't give a damn.

We could do a whole lot better if more people knew about the book, so please, spread the love.

 

- tb

 

I'm sorry that you struggle, Tim. I just never saw you as the kind of person who worries about money. That's only because I don't know what goes on behind-the-scenes.

 

I don't like when people go through hard times, but it is a little nice to hear that you're no different than us. Not completly the same. I don't have a friend who has his own HBO show. ;) Though I do know Tom worked very hard to get where he is today. And I also know that you've done the same. I strongly admire what you two do. It takes hard work and dedication, and I still haven't given up on pursuing my dreams.

 

I love the price! $19.95. What did you think it was going to be? The way you kept talking (or typing) you made it sound like it was going to be some crazy amount. I was a little scared. I hope you guys sell lots of books and make tons of profit.

 

Good luck!!!

 

 

 

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Thanks IFC -

Yeah, y'know I don't make Alex Ross money, that's for sure ;)

I'm in a house that was probably a little too much for me to afford cause we fell in love with the thing.

Hoped my income would continue to climb as it had for so many years but then you get a recession . . .Doh!

And it hits you where you live, literally.

 

As for price of the book, I was just really hoping we could keep it under $20.

With the big influx of pages I was sure we'd go to 22 or 24.95, which still is fair, just a lot to shell out for a softcover trade collection.

People like when they can get a lot of book for under $20, even 5 cents cheaper than $20 ;)

 

- TB

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Yeah, y'know I don't make Alex Ross money, that's for sure ;)

I'm in a house that was probably a little too much for me to afford cause we fell in love with the thing.

Hoped my income would continue to climb as it had for so many years but then you get a recession . . .Doh!

And it hits you where you live, literally.

 

As for price of the book, I was just really hoping we could keep it under $20.

With the big influx of pages I was sure we'd go to 22 or 24.95, which still is fair, just a lot to shell out for a softcover trade collection.

People like when they can get a lot of book for under $20, even 5 cents cheaper than $20 ;)

 

- TB

 

Can't wait to get me one o' these...in the mean time, i'm going to check out all that new porn we got spammed with...JOKING! ;)

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Fucking spam. Just logged on as saw that. Someone needs to get a life. Anyway, back to Bad Planet.

 

Tim, $19.95 seems like a good price to me. All six issues plus you get a hell of a bonus chapter with the behind the scenes. I've seen plenty of books with far less content asking for about the same. This still seems like a good deal to me. I'll have to bring my B&W to work, see if I can't get some of the kids at work interested :D

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I pole-axed the porn spambot.

Banned them until 2037 ;)

I didn't outright delete Appafeembeddy so Noeland could take note of the ISP and email address before we delete the fucker ;)

 

 

Thanks everyone for your continued support.

The color trade has us tickled pornographic pink.

 

Can't wait for you guys to see the Fan art page!!!

 

- TB

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That's awesome that you guys were able to produce what I'm sure will be a great product and keep the price reasonable for all the fans. I'm sure everyone would agree that we all really do appreciate the extra effort that you put into all that you do and that you do it for us, the fans.

 

You guys rule!

 

 

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Yeah, y'know I don't make Alex Ross money, that's for sure ;)

I'm in a house that was probably a little too much for me to afford cause we fell in love with the thing.

Hoped my income would continue to climb as it had for so many years but then you get a recession . . .Doh!

And it hits you where you live, literally.

 

As for price of the book, I was just really hoping we could keep it under $20.

With the big influx of pages I was sure we'd go to 22 or 24.95, which still is fair, just a lot to shell out for a softcover trade collection.

People like when they can get a lot of book for under $20, even 5 cents cheaper than $20 ;)

 

- TB

 

You're welcome, TB!

 

Ever think of moving or do you just love your house way too much?

 

I don't know why we always find $19.95 more appealing than $20. I guess we do love saving that nickel. Plus, we do save a little bit on paying the sales tax. And advertisers always promote $19.95 by saying it's under $20.

 

I think $19.95 is a great price. I'm not saying I want you to make it higher, but for all that's included in the book, it's a bargain.

 

I do think that even $24.95 is a fair price for the book. I mean, it's under $25. ;)

 

 

 

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The price thing is wierd. It's all in perseption. Where I work, someone in corporate came up with the idea that you can sell items better by saying they are 10 for $10 better than 4 for $4 or 6 for $6. A lot of us rolled our eyes, but I'll be damned if he wasn't right. That's probably why WalMart sells DVD's at 19.97 instead of 19.99. 3 cents, Woo-hoo! :D

 

 

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Jeez, we added yet another 6 pages!

Gonna be bulging with goodness.

Just sending it off to the printer. We should have copies available in 6 weeks.

 

Here's a look at the finished cover wrap -

BadPlanetcolorcoverCadjF.jpg

 

Oh yeah . . . We ARE doing 3D - 14 pages of issue #3 reformatted for this larger edition.

And glasses.

 

- TB

 

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Jeez, we added yet another 6 pages!

Gonna be bulging with goodness.

Just sending it off to the printer. We should have copies available in 6 weeks.

 

Here's a look at the finished cover wrap -

BadPlanetcolorcoverCadjF.jpg

 

Oh yeah . . . We ARE doing 3D - 14 pages of issue #3 reformatted for this larger edition.

And glasses.

 

- TB

 

Fuck. Yes. :D

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Jeez, we added yet another 6 pages!

Gonna be bulging with goodness.

Just sending it off to the printer. We should have copies available in 6 weeks.

 

Here's a look at the finished cover wrap -

BadPlanetcolorcoverCadjF.jpg

 

Oh yeah . . . We ARE doing 3D - 14 pages of issue #3 reformatted for this larger edition.

And glasses.

 

- TB

 

 

Sounds great. Glad to hear it.

 

What made you guys change your mind about including the 3D?

 

 

 

 

 

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