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  1. Hey I've said this before on another forum... Am I the only one who gets a Starship Troopers meets Street Fight (and I'm talking the Van Damme film) vibe from this... Because that is a very scary vibe... a very scary vibe indeed. I hope when the trailers come out it doesn't turn that vibe into a deep rooted gut feeling. (who knows... G.I. Joe could end up being the scariest movie of 2009)
  2. If nothing else I love the fact that they are using an image of him as the Punisher over other characters (like Mitch Hunter).
  3. Clearing my head some… Over the past few weeks an idea or concept for a Punisher story has been rattling around in my brain. I thinking of this more as a sequel to the 2004 film rather than just a comic book story. Actually I don’t really know what’s possessing me to post this here… maybe I just have some odd need to gain feedback on some of my hair-brained ideas. I do know that writing things out helps to clear my head… and save ideas for future reference. I guess this is an okay thread to post this. (Warning this is a word document... so there will be a bunch of red and green squiggly lines all over the place) My probably rather dumb idea For the most part that’s what has been bouncing around in my brain. It does me some good to get it all down and out of my head. I’ll probably still have ideas cropping up from time to time, and I’ll jot them down as well and hopefully flesh this whole thing out. Funny enough even though I don’t really care for the character I also have the urge to find a way of having the incident that leads to Microchip’s creation. Anyways this has been my hair-brained Punisher story idea. Also as a final note: I don’t know jack shit about writing screenplays… I do understand novels somewhat. But as I’ve said this was more to clear out my head and get these ideas written down more than anything else. Thanks for taking the time to look at it... and sorry if it made your head hurt .
  4. Oh I know how the fan boy temper can flare up all too well. My first foray into this kind of forum was on IMDb... boy can't tempers flare up there (especially when responses to any of your arguments are usually pathetic and petty insults). I like how even when annoyed people on this forum seem to still be rather respectful to each other. If I was actually talking to you about War Zone then you might possibly see my temper (short that it is... its why I even though I can I don't carry in Miami, the people piss me off too much at times). But in writting I can usually reign in most of my anger... my annoyance, not so much .
  5. Though I to have enjoyed Oswalt's stand-up it doesn't mean that his okay of War Zone some how exonorates the movie from its abundant failings. If he, as a fan of the character, did indeed enjoy the movie then good for him. I unfortunately did not enjoy the film in the least. Its also a bit sad that Alexander uses his review as a way of saying "He gets it. Why don't you?" A bit aggrivating really. Also... I sitll feel that both the 2004 The Punisher and The Punisher: War Zone could have greatly benefited from a more continual voice over narration from the character, just like Frank's running internal thoughts in the comics on why he's doing what he's doing. War Zone needed it far more to me as unlike with Tom Jane I never felt like I saw much going on in Stevenson's mind. His eyes and face just always seems so impassive. With Jane I always felt like there was something going on in his head when they focused on his face (it usually in the actor's eyes for me). Stevenson looked the part and played the violent part well just not much on the rest of the character (outside the graveyard/flasback sequence). I still really think Jane played the overall part in all its aspects better. I also preferred the more... stylized(?)... violence of the 2004 film. It felt more like the older comics where they pushed the boundaries of the ratings/restrictions without completely going over the line. The current comics seem to have lost something for me since there really aren't much in the way of restrictions for the MAX run. The "Oh my God!" moments are not what sells a movie form me and nor a comic book... it never really did. And its really sad and disturbing that Alexander apparently saw that as the key part of the comics. My biggest problem in the end is that I just cannot agree with Lexi Alexander's interpretation of the character, and the more she tells people what her view on him was the more pissed off with her I become. (Vicous cycle isn't it ).
  6. Now that is what I call a tirade! Key thing is I really can't disagree with anything you just wrote. In fact I agree with most of it quite whole-heartedly. As much as my morbid curiosity wishes to listen to commentary on War Zone just to figure out what the hell they were thinking, I can't bring myself to drop any cash on any of the DVD's... though that single DVD cover looks good. Nor can I bring myself to view the film once more either. I watched the 2004 one in the theaters 3 times, but I only saw this one once and wished that I hadn't (even though the trailers for it were already turning me off from seeing it I had to give it a shot since it was a Punisher film). This is now the third comic book movie that I saw in the theaters that I wish I hadn't (if you're curious the other 2 were Spawn and Batman & Robin... boy were those bad days).
  7. I can agree with that. It's funny the more I find out word of mouth on Tom Jane and his views of the character the more respect I have for him. The more I find out word of mouth on Lexi Alexander and her views on the character the more she bothers or aggrivates me. I guess that's probably becuase Jane's views and interpretation of the Punisher seems to mirror my own whereas Alexander's views do not mirror mine in any way shape or form. A bit of personal bias I guess...
  8. Holy smeg! There is an intro thread?!... I must be blind in one eye and can't see out the other to have missed this. Name: Hmm... should I answer this truthfully? McSheehy Location: Miami, FL (sobbing... I hate this city, can't afford to leave just yet) Your Interests (besides Tom, of course): Crap... I never know how to answer this without going overboard... Science Fiction & Fantasy (books, comics, or film), History, Weapons (usually in their use in history... but I also follow IPSIC, IDPA, and SASS), Games Workshop (its easier to give a link than to try and explain it myself)... and finally writting (usually just to jot down the ideas for the odd stories that pop into my head... easiest way to exorcise them). When did you first become at fan of Tom's?: The Punisher was my first real intro to him, though I had seen several of the other films he had been in before that (I just didn't know it at the time). What are your favorite Tom-related films?: The Punisher and Stander so far... though I have enjoyed many others What future Tom-related project (comics/films) are you most anticipating?: Give 'em Hell, Malone is definately the main one I'm looking forward to In what film role to you like Tom best?: Frank Castle... though Andre Stander was great as well, it's just his portrayal of one of my top favorite Marvel characters is going to win out in the end How much have you seen of his Filmography?: Buffy the Vampire Slayer Nemesis The Crow: City of Angels The Thin Red Line Under Suspicion 61* Dreamcatcher Stander The Punisher
  9. $39.99 Ouch! And I thought the $12 I paid to watch it the theaters was a waste. At this point I don't give a rats ass who plays Frank Castle in the future (if there is one) whether its Ray or Tom once more or someone else entirely all I want is to see the story done well. I mean War Zone had a great concept with Frank dealing with the issue of fucking up and accidentally killing a fed, but it just completely fell apart in a rather pointless way. I know that action and violence is central to the character but it shouldn't overshadow a good story. Too much of the violence in this felt like it was gruesomely violent just to be gruesomely violent and no other real purpose. Unfortunately for me I grew out of violence without worthwhile purpose a long time ago. Oh well... here's hoping to the future I guess.
  10. Ugh... zany... Does anyone else get the Ghost Rider movie vibe when they see the word 'zany' in referrence to the Jonah Hex movie. This could end very poorly, especially since focusing on 'zany' can easily end up leading to 'goofy'. Batman, Ghost Rider, the Punisher, Jonah Hex, and several character like them all have a dark and sometimes disturbing underlying story that it seems some filmmakers just want to ignore in favor of the bizarre and somewhat surreal nature of the artwork of the comics. The problem with that is the dark story (or just the story period) is what makes that characters who they are just as much as the drawings. If you just focus on the pretty pictures you're missing half of the character. To me both Schumacher Batman films, Ghost Rider, and The Punisher: Warzone all focused too much on bizarre and surreal elements of the comics and let the harsh story of the characters fall to the wayside. In some cases like Batman and the Punisher the bizarre and surreal looks great in the comics but just ends up looking stupid in live action. With characters like Ghost Rider and Jonah Hex the bizarre and surreal are important parts but if handled poorly with too much focus on the zanyness it just ends up looking goofy and comes across as some dumb joke of a film. Ghost Rider has already been messed up that way on screen. I really really really hope that doesn't happen with Jonah Hex... he's one of only a small handful of DC comic characters that I actually like. Keeping my fingers crossed on this one (not that it will help much).
  11. Damn... that actually looks interesting And Dark Country is sounding interesting as well... even though I usually don't care for thrillers that much Shit... this means there are now are 4 Tom Jane movies I'm looking forward to seeing The Mutant Chronicles (whenever the hell that's actually getting a release) Killshot Dark Country and of course!... Give 'em Hell, Malone oh... and just to be a wise ass... As to some of the earliest posts... Eastwood's characters in both A Fistfull of Dollars and For A Few Dollars More actually had a name. Its Joe in the first one... (though he's only called that once at the very end) and Monco in the other (this time he's called by name at least twice if not three times). It's The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly that he is never referred to by name except for being called Blondie by Tuco. Sorry... I love those films and just couldn't help being a wise ass to point that out Now on with the regularly scheduled discussion...
  12. Sometimes it’s also the actor/actress and what they do with a character that is very important in a movie. I mean can you see anyone besides: Harrison Ford as Rick Deckard… or any of the other character’s he has portrayed for that matter (though funny enough I could see Tom Jane pulling off Deckard, but still its best left alone) Rutger Hauer as Roy Batty… or John Ryder (Bean did a reasonable job but couldn’t get that same level of all over sinister that Hauer achieved)… or even Etienne Navarre Kurt Russell as Snake Plissken Robert Englund as Freddy Kruger Charles Bronson as Paul Kersey Clint Eastwood as… well just about any character he has done really These are merely a few examples… and of just some male actors and roles… Many times the actor or actress brings something to a character that just can’t be matched… only imitated at best (and if they're just imitating why bother in the first place). I know that’s why The Italian Job and Alfie remakes both didn’t really work for me. Neither Mark Walberg nor Jude Law managed to bring that spark to their characters that Michael Caine did. There are some remakes that worked... but far far more that did not. It's also a little sad that instead of trying to do something new choices are being made to redo something old and classic (mainstream or cult it doesn't really matter).
  13. After reading this all I can say is: Shit. Now that sounds like the kind of Punisher sequel I was hoping to see. It’s a bloody shame it never happened. I can also respect a person who has the guts to walk away from something they love when he feels it’s getting hosed over. Not an easy choice to make. Granted alot of people are playing it up as you throwing a temper tantrum, but I take comments like that with a grain of salt (about 2 grams shy a lethal dose grain of salt that is). Thanks for giving your views on the direction you were aiming for. I’ve been looking for that for a couple months now (not that computer/internet savvy… you push buttons and it works, right?). When it comes to what people want… I prefer to get it straight from the source. Until then it’s merely rumor and conjecture. Anyways good luck with your current and future projects. I'm looking forward to Give 'em Hell, Malone
  14. Just wanted to throw in my two cents here… This is my favorite Punisher film of all the three. Is it perfect? Oh hell no. The pacing could have been better… but I liked the build up anyways The origin though flawed still kept some of the key essence: A man loses his family to those who can avoid repercussions from the law and decides to pursue his own more primal form of justice. The action was just fine even with the absurdity of the Russian fight… I’ve never been able to explain it but it worked for me (I find it both humorous and fitting that the crew called it the ‘Horrific Clown Show’). I just loved that manic grin on Kevin Nash’s as he tossed Jane all over the apartment. The way they had Frank get revenge upon the Saints… I don’t know it just struck a cord with me and I liked how it played out. The final shootout was perfect to me. (Note: I never did need a high body count in order to enjoy revenge or action films – the story of the main character is always the most important part) Nonetheless I felt that this movie was a good stepping stone introduction for the character and I was really looking forward to Tom Jane taking the character to the next level. You know, really start making Frank the Punisher that most of the fans know and enjoy. In the end this one gave me just about everything I enjoyed about the character. I also liked that Jane looked like some of the classic drawings from the 80’s and early 90’s. That’s the Punisher I grew up with and remember the best. It was a good film. It could have been better, but it was still fun. It’s one of my standard 'toss in films' when I want some background entertainment as I work on other things.
  15. First off I’m new to these boards… only found out about them when looking up stuff about this movie. My real intro to Jane’s acting was when he portrayed one of my top two favorite Marvel comic characters with the Punisher. I really enjoyed that movie… of all three versions it was the one that came the closest to the character I took away from the comics, and I was really looking forward to that next step. After the… I guess I’ll use the word ‘disappointment’ that the new film was for me I started looking at forum/message boards to see what other people thought. Only a couple weeks ago did I once more take another look at Jane’s profile on IMDb and trust me the movie title Give ‘em Hell, Malone definitely caught my eye. With a title like that you think I wasn’t going to find out what I could about the movie?! After watching the trailer I actually said… out loud even… “Good god, I need to see this!” It’s been quite a while since I’m been this interested in a movie that wasn’t some form of adaptation (novel or comic). And now after reading through all the posts here and seeing the extra pictures Tim Bradstreet put up I’m even more psyched about it. I love how Jane looks… the coat, the hat, the gun I almost can’t wait until this is finished up and released.
  16. As to shows that are actually still running… Burn Notice Eureka NCIS House M.D. A few shows from the History Channel & Military Channel As to shows that had their run (I’ll keep this to the ones I enjoyed the most)… Firefly Vengeance Unlimited Titus Futurama Band of Brothers The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. Conquest (a History Channel show) Buffy the Vampire Slayer Angel Star Trek (any incarnation) I seem to have a taste for shows that ended up getting the axe rather than end on their own terms. There were others I enjoyed… I just can’t remember them right now.
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