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  1. I watched Killer Joe yesterday and it's been bugging me all night... I have to sound off about the film.


    I'm not sure why I wanted to watch it in the 1st place, but I tend to watch all sorts of movies.


    MAJOR PLOT SPOILERS follow. Read at your own risk...


    So, in my opinion, Killer Joe (2011, directed by William Friedkin from a play by Tracy Letts) by is a deep fried piece of pointlessness wrapped up in the crime noir and black comedy genres. The crime noir in the movie could have been really good, but instead it was just OK, and the black comedy at 1st was a bit fun, but then got tedious and obvious.


    The film is extremely exploitative of women and some scenes feel like they're there for shock value and nothing else.


    The acting was good overall, but it was an uphill battle to make the characters believable, interesting, and sympathetic in any way. Well, I guess they were not supposed to be characters to root for, except maybe Dottie (played by Juno Temple).


    I'm just going to touch on some points and characters now and assume that, if you're reading this, you've seen the film:


    1. To me, the "loose" ending was clear. Dottie shoots Joe (a startlingly good Matthew McConaughey) at the end. They show a shot of Dottie moving her finger to the trigger and... cut to black screen. I just wish they had included the sound of a gunshot.


    2. I said this film was pointless, but maybe the concept is supposed to be the destruction of an American family...? Someone at IMDB posted the interesting idea that Joe is just a catalyst that drives the family to tear itself apart, because the seeds of the destruction were already there from the start (Sorry, I'm mixing metaphors, etc...). Actually, really, IMO, the almost unseen Rex is the catalyst of all to follow...


    3. Now, here's my main problem with the film: The duplicitous Sharla's (Gina Gershon) betrayal(s) never fully play out or are totally explained. I don't know if the viewers are supposed to understand or guess what Sharla knows and has done with Rex or if the script-writing is not developed enough.


    What I mean is, near the end of the film, in a very tense, pre-violence scene, Joe has a looong convo with Sharla in front of Ansel (Thomas Haden Church) at the family dinner table. Joe's basically squeezing it out of Sharla that she is in cahoots with her lover, Rex, who is also the husband of Ansel's ex-wife. Joe keeps asking why Sharla says the insurance pay-out is $100K instead of $50K that the family thinks it is.


    So, Sharla knows, from Rex, that the insurance on the "accidental death" of Ansel's ex-wife will be $100K. That's as far as Joe goes in questioning Sharla.


    I would have taken this further: Like, Sharla must have then known that Rex was the beneficiary and not Dottie. Like, Sharla would know she would be splitting $100K only with Rex.


    So why was she still hanging out with Ansel and the family during the time Rex was getting the pay-out? Wouldn't she realize that the family, and Joe, would be mad as hornets that they weren't getting paid as a beneficiary and for the job respectively? She should have been way far away from them, with Rex, collecting the insurance check and cashing it and skipping town!


    I had to think about all that afterwards to try to understand what Joe was getting at with Sharla. I mean, I understood she was betraying Ansel, but what she knew was not fully explored.


    4. Moving on to characters and actors, I felt Thomas Haden Church's dumb as dirt schtick was funny at first, but it gets tiresome fast. At the end of the film, a crazed Joe asks subservient Ansel "What do you think?" and Ansel says "I don't think". All that is hammered to death in the film.


    Chris (Emile Hirsch) is a perpetual screw-up and the one who pushes for the hit on his mother, yet there's still something sweet, and sweetly icky, about his feelings for his sister, Dottie. Sadly, he gets face-pummeled in Nowhere-fashion by Joe AND shot (but in the upper shoulder?!) by Dottie. I didn't understand why Dottie shot Chris, except that she was blinded by anger from all the violent commotion and shot at whoever was standing in front of her... I mean, is there really a reason for Dottie to hate Chris? She talked about him dreamily when she told Joe that when her mom and dad divorced and she was crying, Chris laid on top of her until she stopped crying... Unexplored, perverse territory here...


    Dottie is a confusing character. Is she the "innocent" fairy princess we're supposed to be rooting for. Kinda difficult with her screwy moral compass where she has no compunction in agreeing that her mom needs to be murdered. She's also psychologically stunted, so it's hard to know where her reasoning is coming from. I'm also not sure about her "relationship" with Joe. They never film it like she hates him or is afraid of him (until the end when he yells at her to sit down). What are her feelings, really? Did she want to run away with Chris to Peru? Did she want to marry Joe? Based on what happens at the end, I'd say she wants everyone to stop "suffocating" her and she kills them all...


    5. Oh, which lead me to a gun question! How many bullets are in Chris's gun that Dottie fires? Are there 6 bullets? Are there more in the clip that you see Chris slam into the gun itself when he buys it?


    I'm asking this, because at the end, Dottie fires off 5 shots, as far as I can tell. So if there's 1 more bullet, I'm assuming that one's for Joe.


    6. Lastly, back to characters and actors, Matthew McC does a fine job in his snaky, sneaky, way-too-polite-until-he's-not role, but the character is too unknowable. Joe is too much of an enigma to be more than a scary surface. I mean, what are his motives? I guess he wants Dottie. Why does he goes all KFC-crazy on Sharla when Dottie's in the bedroom looking out of the cracked-open door? (And, as an aside, why would Dottie want to stand by Joe after that misygonistic and violent scene?) Why didn't Joe somehow get Rex to cash the insurance check, then kill Rex and take the money? The money doesn't seem to be the issue, even though Joe is the one who says he'll kill the whole family since he's not getting paid. Uh, too confusing!


    I'd love to know your thoughts on this film if anyone's seen it and can stand talking about it! LOL



  2. New Queens of the Stone Age disc is GREAT!


    Ahhh - Esco! You've just answered the question I was going to post here; what is the new QOTSA album like?


    How many times have you listened to the disc? Is it an instant like or did it grow on you? What is your most fave album by the band?


    "I Appear Missing" is one of my faves off the album:



    Will give my thoughts later when I have more time -



  3. "`Sirius', a provocative crowd-funded documentary film from Emmy winning director Amardeep Kaleka (`Neverending Light Productions'), producer J.D Seraphine, and narrated by actor Thomas Jane (HBO series `Hung'), will have its contributor, VIP & celebrity premiere on April 22 in Hollywood, CA.

    The movie premiere will be followed by a limited theatrical release and concurrent VOD launch via the Yekra video on demand platform on SiriusDisclosure.com and Yekra's AffiliateConnect customized social media networks.


    'Sirius' is a film of the people, by the people, and for the people, as it is the result of the highest documentary crowd-funding raise in history."





  4. Hey Jen, Yes, thank God for youtube! Glad you were at least able to catch some of their live preformances online -- they are really worth seeing in concert if you ever get a chance. Listened to Heaven all day yesterday (btw the lyrics are phenomenal)...it's growing on me a little more..... Their lyrics have always been great and dark -- one of the main reasons why I love them so much. I was a bad girl, I was able to sample Delta Machine already. Unfortunately Heaven was the only song that I cared to listen to be quite honest.


    I have so many favs of theirs but here they are : - Just Can't Get Enough (1981) - Everything Counts (1983) - Get The Balance Right (1984) - Blasphemous Rumours (1984) - Shake The Disease (1985) - Love In Itself (1985) - It's Called A Heart (1985) - Black Celebration (1986) - Stripped (1986) - But Not Tonight (1986) - Nothing (1987) - Halo (1990) - World In My Eyes (1990) - Sweetest Perfection (1990) - Mercy In You (1993) - In Your Room (1993) - Higher Love (1993) - Barrel Of A Gun (1997) - Home (1997) - It's No Good (1997) - Useless (1997) - Insight (1997) - Precious (2005) - A Pain That I`m Use To (2005)


    Since 2005, there hasn't been much of anything else that has really appealed to me unfortunately. My all time fav albums are Violator (of course), Songs of Faith n Devotion and Ultra. My two songs that I can`t absolutely live without are It`s No Good and Halo. Actually Jen, I am not on DM`s message boards but I do have them on facebook. Check out some of my favs and let me know if you like any of them!


    Yeah, I kind of lost track of what Depeche Mode was doing after Songs of Faith + Devotion. Not sure why... I did hear songs from Ultra and Exciter that I liked, but not enough to buy the albums at that time, for some reason...


    From what I recall, I was still listening to radio at that time and taped a couple of the songs to keep on cassette... :lol:


    Yes, "It's No Good" is a fave of mine too, and I forgot about "Halo", but just gave it a listen, and it's up there too. My other faves besides "Never Let Me Down Again", include "Shake The Disease", "The Policy of Truth", "World in My Eyes", "Enjoy the Silence" (at the time it was released, it bowled me over compared to everything else that was on the radio, etc...), "Walking in My Shoes", "Strangelove", "People are People, "In Your Room", "The Love Thieves", "Behind the Wheel", and "Barrel of a Gun". Sorry it's out of order chronologically.


    That's just based on the songs I recall and have heard. I'm planning on listening to all of DM's albums at some point. A fun task, if you ask me!


    So does that mean you've heard Delta Machine in full now? I've heard most/all of the songs, but only once, so my opinions aren't totally formed yet... What I do know is that I like "Heaven" (Yes, I do!), "Soft Touch/Raw Nerve", "Should Be Higher", and "Soothe My Soul". There are 2 or 3 more songs I like too, but I forget which ones they are.


    Have you had the chance to listen to Delta Machine more and is anything else catching your ear?



  5. Thanks so much for your comments! I actually didn't realize that the IMDB.com links for each movie came up in the Filmography, but it's cool that it does. Very helpful. I'm also not sure if I described the short film The Butler's In Love correctly. It's been a little while since I've seen that one. Will have to watch it again.


    I posted a couple of short interviews (text) with Tom in the Interviews thread, but they are from when he was at the Gasparilla Film Fest this past weekend, and there's a pic of Tom at one of those links. He talks about The Punisher, Tampa Bay, being shoeless, and other topics.



  6. If you like My Bloody Valentine or Stereolab, check out Caribou - 60's psychedelia meets 80's shoe-gazer pop.




    If you like this sound, you may also like Dungen. It's a less polyester/plastic sound but just as groovy.


    I know this post is from a long time ago, but I just read that Dan Snaith, the man behind Caribou, is now Daphni with an album out called Jiaolong. It's not really my thing, but just wanted you to know.


    "Springs" is springy with some clacking beats and lots of R2-D2 beeping flourishes sprinkled throughout:



    PS Sunshine, I will reply to your DM post soon; I'm pressed for time right now, but your song list is really cool and I'll have to give a listen to some of them because I either haven't heard them or not in a while...

  7. Hiya Sunshine!


    I'm glad to see I'm not the only one psyched about Depeche Mode's new album.


    That's so cool that you've seen the guys live. I never have. :( And you pre-date me for being a fan. I caught on to them around Music For The Masses, I think. Whenever "People Are People" became more widely heard (well, to a point). I used to collect all the articles and photos of the band members from magazines, mostly international ones since the U.S. didn't quite take to DM right away. I remember a couple kids in high school flaunting the fact that they saw DM live. LOL


    I have been catching up though with some of the concert footage on YouTube. I don't know what I'd do without YouTube - or Depeche Mode.


    Keep listening to "Heaven" - over and over - and hopefully it will unfold its mysteries to you and you'll enjoy the song more. I had to listen to it many, many times before I did truly "feel" it. Oh, and thanks for the retweet! :D


    My fave album is Violator (yes, the obvious choice) and my fave song is "Never Let Me Down Again" - at least I think so; as of right now.


    What are you faves?


    Jen PS Are you on the official DM Message Board at all? Just curious. I joined a few days ago.

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