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  1. Who is Mr. Jane actually dating?

    Hold on conspiracy buffs! I was the originator of that thread on Patricia-arquette.com, and I requested that the thread be killed. The administrator complied. The reason I asked for it to be killed is that it went into the weeds of conjecture. There villifying TJ, and as you may notice, here villifying Patricia, at least by implication. None of us, save Tim and maybe Jen, who are actual friends of Thomas and Patricia know what is going on, and it is in really horrendous behavior for us to publicly guess at what must be a terrible time for both of them. I posted the opptimistic note because it was good news in a time period when there isn't much of that to go around. Personally, I hope they pull it off and returned to married life. Hopefully they both return to married life smarter, more mature, more occimidating of each others needs and completely aware of how much better their lives are with each other as opposed to without. I found Thomas' work through being a fan of Patricia, so regardless of affiliation, I don't think that provides me a right to make public wild ass guess about where their marriage is at. When my thread turned into that, it went away.


    Best regards to all,


    JoeMess (Same name over there to.)

  2. Finishing a third screwdriver made because the blender broke while my daughter tried to make a knock-off recipe of Orange Julius. Watching the beginning of what is supposed to be 9" of snow tonight in my new digs.



  3. Yeah, I'm not sure if I would have gotten it either, but I saw it written about at the Medium Dreams fansite about Patricia. :lol:


    That Tom's a sly one, I tell ya! ;)




    These kinds of auctions are great because they always break the trend line of donations being down while the economy is down. If any of the posters here work for a large company, you should check with your HR department to see if they also offer matching. You could easily get a 3 to 1 on a donation combined with the Kraft donation. When I worked at Microsoft the matching had an individual matching ceiling per charity. You could amass a group donation to push the ceiling quite high, and the company was highly supportive of collective donation efforts. It is worth looking into. Based upon family circumstances I have driven across this country four times in the last 7 months. The reality of the desparate state of our economy has been apparent in rural areas since March of this year. This Christmas is already going to be about food rather than presents for the needy.



  4. While i do realize that Ozzy isn't to everyone's taste, and i haven't listened to everything they've done without him, the stuff i have heard just didn't get it done for me. Ozzy is in no way the only member of the band, but there is something powerful about the four of them together, something that can never be matched.

    Not that I dislike Ozzy, but with the guitar players he has played with, it is the same as watching a porn flick. Do you have any idea what the guy in the last porn flick you saw looked like? Yah, me neither. Gilliam brought out a sincere heaviness in Sabbath. With Ozzy, it has always been more of a schtick.



  5. As far as i'm concerned, there is no Black Flag without Henry--just like there is no Black Sabbath without Ozzy.


    All of Henry's work is great--some very intense, some just a lot of fun. My wife and i saw him live several times, both with the Band and his Spoken Word, got to meet him, and he is just as fucking cool offstage as on.


    Oh, and the Henry Rollins Show on IFC--brilliant.

    Saw Sabbath with Gilliam on the Born Again tour. You might want to rethink the Sabbath statement. The fluffy clown shit that Ozzy does wasn't there, and I could finally take them seriously. They also played for close to 3 hours.




    P.S. Ozzy was only good live with Jake E. Lee on guitar anyway. I don't know how Zakk Wylde stands it.

  6. Bogart's my hero.

    let's not forget Harrison Ford, who won fame with STAR WARS in his late 30's - wasn't it? it really does seem like its pure luck , doesn't it?

    i mean if Mutant Chronicles had been a truly great film like star wars - then we'd all be seeing some pretty great shit starring me right now, wouldn't we? but because that and other films i've starred in are low budget and not particularly successful - that's what we've got right now...


    i know my hearts in the right place - and i've got some films that people want to see under my belt and coming up - but getting to that place where everyone is singing our universal praises and we're still doing the weird, so called 'esoteric' 'personal' action flicks i wanna do - that's all Box Office. and i just haven't found that film yet. or it hasn't found me. yet...




    Deep six this if you don't want to reply. You know you are the only one that can answer your question, right? You have got lead role acting, directing, screen writing, comic writing and innovative film production all under your belt. Which of these do you like the best? If one of them is the winner, and you can practically pull it off as a livelihood, why aren't you chasing it with 100% of your professional effort? You don't have the immediate name recognition of Harrison Ford, but you say Thomas Jane to most people, and they say Punisher and/or Mist. What's the goal here? You are ahead of 99.9% of actors that make a living acting. Your wife is super well known, and in interviews seems to regret the lack of privacy that fame has created. When you take your daughter out for icecream, do you want the same? Could a professional win for you instead be having a career like a Derek Jacobi, recognized for excellence in every role, but not an "in your face" celebrity? Maybe the esoteric flicks are what you are doing, because they are what you like to do. If you can determine what is successful for you, and it works for you and your family, fuck the noise of the rest of the industry, and do that. You are way more productive than most, and you turn out quality results. Don't beat yourself up over people too ignorant to recognize that.



  7. ah man - a racing film would be sweet. i always wanted to do a film based on the old Bruce Springsteen song, Racing in the Street.

    How do you make it cool again like Steve McQueen in Le Mans instead of shit-kicker entertainment like Nascar that won't fill a theatre? Has the gaming industry already commanded the street racing revenue stream? I am sure the pockets behind Indy and F1 would pop backing for the right project that would bring licensing revenue back up. That could be a monster project. Imax release using the camera rigs you used for Dark Country. Nothing life asphalt an inch away going by at 200 mph. First person perspective on a high speed crash. Something more than Bud fueled Nascar fans or a chica on the hood of a souped-up Honda. What would make it step out of the pack?



  8. I seen him here and there, but the guy never really caught my eye.



    TL, you have really missed out. Aside from his broad ranging knowledge base and overwhelming intelligence, Henry Rollins is possibly one of the funniest humans alive. He can take the most fucked up tragic things that have happened in his life, and have you still pissing your pants a week later. Do yourself a favor, and dig into his career. As far as Black Flag, you will either love it or hate it. That's on you.



  9. I'm an HBO fan, even if they dick around with cancelling shows too much, I cannot deny that I loved Deadwood, Carnivale, and Rome. I also enjoy Entourage for what it is, and hell, I don't much care for True Blood, but my girlfriend likes it, and the show seems to be popular.




    Yep. Even though in the last 10 years the stigma of being either a TV actor, or a film actor has mostly been lifted, and the writing for TV has become quite good, I very much prefer to sit down and watch a great movie than I do to watch a great TV show.


    TV for me is always a form of relaxation after a long day of work. It entertains you and gives you something else to ponder outside of punching your co-workers in the sternum. ;)


    Personally, I'm looking forward to this show of Tom's quite a bit. Hopefully we start seeing ads for it soon.

    There is another dynamic that doesn't get discussed in entertainment, attention span. A movie used to be more fulfilling because rather than 7 or 8 minutes of actual character development you get with a TV show, you can get 25-30 minutes of getting to know a character, develop empathy for them and ride the wave of whatever is the conflict of the film. As film has devolved into its current state of blood porn, character-less action and cheeseball schtick comedies that are like SNL sketches that have outlasted their welcome, going to the theatre is rarely satisfying. If we take a look at the current career status of Tom's wife Patricia, she is starring in a well loved TV series in which her character is complex, has real dimension, and real capability of surprises. Yet, the character is still the same character that viewers "know" through the past four seasons. The show and Patricia win awards and she has defeated the Hollywood stereotype that an actresses career ends in their thirties, unless you comeback to play old ladies. This show maybe Tom's vehicle to develop a character with staying power. (No pun intended!) Don't forget that Bruce Willis' dynasty as an action star was built on his success in moonlighting. I don't think anybody holds the monster comedy chops he showed in Moonlighting against him.



  10. This is the delicious topic of discussion...




    I dated a girl that looks ALOT like her a little while ago.


    That was fun.


    Not as much fun though as when I dated a Tilda Swinton look-a-like.


    That was fuckin awesome.




    Parker Posey has the strange thing that resonates with women to. My daughter was almost called Parker, at my wife's request. I dated a girl in college that was a dead ringer for Parker, but with a little more of those and that. Great times!




  11. Let me preface this by asking, am i the only guy in the world who does not find Cameron Diaz attractive? Sure, i like that she's not afraid to act silly and look like a goof, and she will go for the dick jokes, but she is too fucking scrawny for my taste, makes her eyes look all bugged out--she kinda looks like the Green Goblin in the comics, with her sunken cheeks and huge rictus grin...


    Anyway, that makes starting off a movie with all these guys obsessing over her, very weak from my point of view. Christina Applegate is still funny, Selma Blair has her moments, and of course Thomas is cool. But the fucking musical numbers--seriously?! Nice try, but merely a few funny moments can't save a comedy.



    Not alone dude. I wouldn't even pause at Cameron Diaz to wipe my feet on my way to Parker Posey, or Christina Applegate, or Selma Blair, or for that matter, most other women. Seems like a nice girl, but I don't get how she always gets played up as so hot. Maybe she is one of those women that are unbelievable in person, and it just isn't captured by the camera.



  12. Personally I'm not happy with these choices. That they are willing to release an unfinished film to theaters is pretty bothersome, especially given that a "finished" version is being released after it.


    It just seems backwards and idiotic to me.

    Yep, they are eating their own young. It is not like you ever really get the opportunity to re-release anything. How long did it take Spielberg to get the recut Close Encounters out? How long for the Directors Cut of Blade Runner? This isn't like having an instructor review your rough draft. The revenue potential for the UK is probably less than halved by this action and better special effects for the home/DVD/Blu-ray market makes almost no sense.



  13. Um... you do realise that Terry Gilliam is American... and the british are all in favour of supporting special needs animation projects .... just not in the cinema :P

    My God, you guys had to outsource to get that quality!





  14. Thomas,


    If it is bad form to answer this question, just shine on it. How much work is actually left? Do you guys have the gig bid, and don't have the cap to pull it, or is it still not fully fleshed out? It would seem that a theatrical release is a deeper financial commitment then paying a few 3D artist and a special effects team to wrap a few scenes. (Sorry, I didn't make comicon, and my own revenue experiences keep me from the torrents to see the current state of affairs for the film.) The reason I ask, is that there is a lot of talent out there struggling for gigs. I am up in Seattle, and I can get decent talent for dirt due to the miserable market conditions. (Don't worry, I have huge loyalty to the people who do work for me, so they get multiple gigs from me, and I reference people out the wazoo for other gigs. Nobody ever went hungry working for me.) I have to imagine the market is worse in LA and wrapping the production in earnest is more reasonable today then it was last year at this time. Sorry if this is too personal for a public forum, but the distribution team in the UK sounds like they are tripping over their own dick, and ultimately killing the revenue potential.


    Best regards,



  15. I know it's a bit early to ask about the score/soundtrack release...but can't wait for the news on that!


    Jazz, film noir, and 3-D...dude, I'm so there. B)




    With the soundtrack in the works, and the film playing a lot of games with first person perspective with extreme changes in elevation and proximity, will you be doing spatial effects with the audio as well? (i.e. 7.1 and 5.1 surround you with 5 or 7 static positions for a very two dimensional experience in reality.) Are you going to step up above that as well?



  16. Jen,


    Those links were great! I really appreciate your effort. The only things not covered were the custom software they had to have written and the articulated matte for keying. Great articles though that answered the majority of my questions, and I have tagged the sites for future review.


    Thank you!



  17. Apologies to other forum members, but professional curiosity has the better of me, and I got to ask.




    So I watched the press releases coming out of the IBC the week before last assuming that I would see some annoucement about your 3D work from one of the big NLE players. (Sony, Avid, Apple or Adobe) But nothing dropped. I kind of half guessed that tracking announcements of who had native support for the new Red camera models would give a clue, but nothing. So, I got to ask. (Obviously, if you have an interview with Creative Cow or one of the trades coming up, just drop a clue and I will check in with that.) If not, please drop the other shoe.

    1. Which NLE are you using to execute your 3D projects?


    How are you dealing with the shitload of data output from the Red cameras?


    Are you still shooting and preserving in raw format? (Making question 2 even more important.)


    What did you have to get written to do these projects? (I assumed that you had to pay to get Red support into whatever tools you are using, but again, only Adobe announced new native Red support at IBC, and Apples support is notoriously crappy.)

    The last question, totally out of line with the others: This articulated matte work you are doing for chroma key. My only guess is that you seriously overlight from the backside to ensure there are no shadows and you have a consistent color for keying. Willing to give any clues on that?


    Again, if you have technical trade press happening for these projects, let me know.



  18. That review can only be based on a viewing of the unfinished rough cut, which can hardly be called a fair assessment.

    OK, maybe fair for where the film stands now, but it's been stated by Simon Hunter, Ed Pressman, and everyone who's had anything to do with this film that it's simply not a finished work yet. Everyone involved KNOWS the film as it stands has problems. Problems that WILL be addressed provided they can dig up a bit more money.

    If that never happens and the film ends up being released as is then fine everyone, take your shots.


    Do these reviewers know what it is they are watching? They must not because nowhere in any of these pre-release reviews does it ever state that what they are reviewing is an unfinished rough cut. As I've said before in this thread, it's just outright unfair to judge this film as it currently stands. The million or so dollars they need to complete the film could change a lot - The nip/tuck of the editing, the film's opening sequence among many other things both artistic and narrative. The final result could be something these disappointed reviewers may end up liking. In fact, I'd bet on it.


    Now I'm still massively curious, did all these people bent on judging the film get a copy of the movie legitimately or did they illegally download it?

    If they obtained their copy legally then I gotta ask myself why would any of the financial entities involved make it available to reviewers in it's current state without some kind of disclaimer making mention of the film's unfinished state?


    Maybe TJ can shed some light on that.


    - TB




    This is an awkward one, as you always have to play the game of trying not to alienate critics, but they could always smile and dial and force retractions. They are, after all, reviewing pirated copies of a copyright protected piece that is not yet complete. In fact, they are doing material harm to a commercial entity by publishing critical reviews of this unfinished work causing grievious harm to its financial potential. Ugly situation for the reviewer and his publisher.



  19. Loved that about seeing "The Punisher" displayed prominently at Wal-Mart, even if it was on the center aisle,


    Placement was actually really solid. Most of the WalMarts look like they have moved to a planogram model. To get into electronics, you have to cross an overtly wide back aisle. (10-12' wide) They setup feature racks that are tall and thin in front of the entry points to the section. Everybody that goes to look at a Blu-Ray player or an HDTV is going to walk upto and passed a display with "The Punisher" starring Thomas Jane fully in their face. The racks also featured Batman product. Again, this display screamed high traffic.



  20. Television is no longer the "red-headed-stepchild" of Hollywood, and more and more film stars are finding increased success in television. And simply put, it's because the material is better all around. When every other movie that comes out of Hollywood is a sequel to a sequel or a remake of a remake, the lack of originality begins to wear on both audiences and I"m sure actors as well. TV is in a great place right now creatively, and many great film actors are taking advantage of it. So kudos to Thomas, and I wish him lots of luck with this.




    Let's be real. For the average person, a television show is a much better option to see their favorite performers than a movie release. I am in Seattle, and there are three theatres that I can go and see something interesting at. If it isn't something super mainstream, I am usually seeing it at a limited run theatre called the Crest, which also plays second runs at $3 a seat. The other two theatres are literally a block away from each other about a mile west of the University of Washington. Seattle is thought of as a cultured town, but this is the reality of boots on the ground in Seattle.


    You know how much of a fan of Patricia I am, Medium being the only television show I watch in any given week. Having your favorite actress develop a character over multiple years is tremendous. Her skill at weaving a deeper more real, more complex, character are revealed over a long period of time and her skill at constantly making it new show why she is beloved. In the case of Thomas, I would love for him to have that kind of vehicle. I really enjoyed "The Tripper", but the times when TJ wasn't on screen were a bit of a let down, like it was stuck in the mud. Whenever he was on screen it was like, "OK, the movie is going to advance now." This weekend I ended up in WalMart in the middle of the night buying more stuff to get my house ready for open houses. There in the middle of the sales floor was a DVD stand featuring movies centered on comic characters. Top shelf, dead center, "The Punisher". Thomas Jane (Note top billing) and John Travolta. The price was great, $9. The real excitement for me was, that as stupid as anybody thinks a high placement in WalMart might be, this will do a shitload of good for Tom Jane name recognition. Our favorite renaissance man may finally be breaking mainstream.



  21. I am in Pasadena for a wedding, and flying back out tomorrow at 10 AM. I was at Gruaman's yesterday to show my daughter the place and to take pictures of a friends star for Promo T-shirts. I left a manufacturing master burning in a Mac Pro on Friday in Seattle, so can't just bail on the return flight. What is up with my luck?



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