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As much as I dislike the idea of remakes, sometimes they work really well.

 

 

I've said many times on this board that I don't like the idea of remakes or sequels with no other reason than for the sake of making a movie, but if it's done really well, then I'm all for it. That being said, there have been precious few remakes and sequels which have lived up to the originals in my mind. Only a handful come to mind right off the bat.

 

But this movie was one of those that succeeded its predecessors admirably, and as many have said, could very well reinvigorate the franchise and give it new life for a whole new generation of fans. Speaking of, this has got to be the longest running franchise in the history of Hollywood, right? I mean, this is what number 11?!! Wow!

 

 

I have to admit, after the last couple of Trek films, (and I have admitted that I'm a bigger fan of the TNG crew than the original flavor), I kind of lost my taste for the franchise. But this one was fantastic, and made me excited for it again.

 

It was a blast seeing all of the original characters, or younger versions of them, and how they all came together. My favorite one (for obvious reasons) was Karl Urban's Bones. For those who said that he disappeared into the character, you are sooo right. His portrayal was dead-on. The other cast members were good too, some better than others, but Bones has always been (and still is) my favorite! :P

 

Loved this movie!! I may have to go see it again, lol!

 

 

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I hated the idea of a Trek reboot but i have to admit i was wrong. I loved the film, its probably the best star trek movie except for the wrath of khan and the score was fantastic

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My favourite Star Trek film so far is First Contact.

 

But this one surely looks a treat!

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Speaking of, this has got to be the longest running franchise in the history of Hollywood, right? I mean, this is what number 11?!! Wow!

 

James Bond, I believe is the movie franchise with longest run time (1963) and total titles (23? with one remake, Casino Royale).

 

1. Dr. No

2. From Russia with Love

3. Goldfinger

4. Thunderball

5. Casino Royale

6. You Only Live Twice

7. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

8. Diamonds Are Forever

9. Live and Let Die

10. The Man with the Golden Gun

11. The Spy Who Loved Me

12. Moonraker

13. For Your Eyes Only

14. Octopussy

15. Never Say Never Again

16. A View to a Kill

17. The Living Daylights

18. Licence to Kill

19. GoldenEye

20. Tomorrow Never Dies

21. The World Is Not Enough

22. Die Another Day

23. Casino Royale

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Excuse me. How could I forget about James Bond? ^_^

 

When did the original Trek debut? Wasn't it in '65? Anyway, I guess I was thinking of all of the television spinoffs too. I should have been clearer. What I meant was, I guess, that it's been the most prolific in terms of movies and television.

 

 

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I saw it last night and I was well entertained.

I'm not ga-ga goo-goo over it like it's the best thing since sliced bread but it was fun.

Don't let me rain on anyone's parade if you are over the moon about this flick.

My feelings are my own and they are wrapped in 40 + years of history.

In other words, it's hard to say this is the best trek movie ever 'cause this is something that is also so different and so much more expensive than anything to come before it. I think even the 35 million spent on The Motion Picture, in 1979 would pale next to the 150 million plus spent on this reinvention. In even more 'other words', this film had the budget to go where no Trek has gone before.

 

If I had to rate it against the other films in terms of how I responded to it, walking out of the picture, how did it make me feel . . . ?

I'd have to rate it after Wrath Of Khan (which absolutely blew the mind of the then 15 year old me). I walked about a half mile to see it. Walked back home in a daze and ate dinner. Then walked back over and saw it again the same day. It was magic.

 

I had a somewhat similar feeling after seeing ST IV The Voyage Home, though not as strong.

 

But both left me more affected than JJ's wonderful film. That is not a slam or a dig. It's just me being honest. And truthfully, the reason the other two films worked so well for me was because of the history/continuing story line, AND it was seeing the show I grew up so completely enamored with, taken up 10 notches and blown out big budget on the movie screen. This Trek really can't compete with that nostalgia factor or account for the fact that I'm seeing this film with a 40 year old's eyes and not (unfortunately) with a 15-18 year old's eyes. Taking all of that into consideration, this reinvention just plain and simply was going to have cards stacked against it from the word go for me. Still, it rates right up there, which should say something.

 

This Star Trek has a lot to love in it. I totally appreciated what Karl Urban did and it was really nice to see him use more range of emotion than Id seen from him previously. But it wasn't really that incredible for me. It was more a case of his moments being the classic McCoy moments of a Star Trek film. De Kelley got to enjoy those and so will Karl. I actually liked the Scotty stuff better, but this is just semantics. I thought EVERYONE was good.

I see what many of you are saying about Bana. His is the one performance that seems . . . 'off' is the best I can describe it. It's quirky and not at all what I'd have expected from a bloodthirsty savage man bent on revenge and annihilation.

 

I actually liked Chris Pine a lot. Zack was really good too, though I'd like to pop his hairdresser in the mouth. Sometimes the hair appliance he wore on top was less than perfectly aligned with the rest of his hair in back and in some profiles it looked like a bowl on top of his head. Seems like 150 million would rent you a mistake proof hair person ;) But I'm just bitching about small details and I don't want to do that.

 

What I REALLY liked was the way in which the writers found a way to create this new parallel line/universe without disrupting the old.

I'll try not to spoil. They left all of that intact and they did it in a very clever way. Bravo that.

 

Everyone is so far being great about NOT spoiling other fairly big surprises and I won't fuck that up. But I will say that there is one pretty big twist that is sure to stir controversy. Not with me though. I think those of you who have seen the film know what I am referring to. I had no problem with that whatsoever. In this parallel direction there is a symmetry to the dynamic, and it did not offend the classic Trek lover in me at all.

 

Having Nimoy was big, very big. And it was truly wonderful to see him don the pointy ears once again, and in a way completely relevant to the story.

Absolutely loved that. Lots and lots of nods to Star Trek classic including a Chris Pine/Shatner moment that had me beaming. All in the cadence with which he delivers a line later in the film.

 

A big thumbs up to Trek 2009 and to JJ Abrams and his team for carving out it's own direction while simultaneously respecting all that has come before and leaving things open enough to bring in other Trek characters from the lexicon should they choose to do so. I think this Trek successfully restarted the franchise in a similar way as Casino did for Bond, though for me, not as strongly redefined. Close though. And if there is a formula for a reboot, this is the one to follow.

 

LOVED Bruce Greenwood as Pike, so glad they brought that character back!

LOVED Ben Cross as Sarek (Spock's father). Ben Cross was a great choice. Want to see much more of him in subsequent films.

LOVED seeing Wynona Ryder back up on screen where she belongs.

 

- tb

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Aaaargh, I want to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

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Also some fun trivia I spotted. I'm sure there is a lot more I missed.

 

When Spock and Kirk are going at it in front of Star Fleet Academy Command you'll note a few names on plaques in front of the Test Administrators. One of the Plaques reads "Dr. Chandra", or "Dr. R. Chandra" (only got a quick glimpse), Here is the significance. This is a total tip of the hat to 2001: A Space Odyssey and 2010: The Year We Make Contact - Dr. Chandra (portrayed by Bob Balaban in 2010) is the man who is credited with having created and or programmed the HAL 9000, and SAL 9000 computers. So maybe more a tip of the hat to author Arthur C. Clarke.

 

I've already pointed this out earlier but the future cop who pulls over young James Tiberious Kirk is wearing a mask that has a little red eye which is pretty much an exact copy of the HAL 9000 optics. Another nod to 2001.

 

During the credits I noticed that one of the songs in the film was performed by a band called "Cyrano Jones".

You may remember Cyrano Jones (portrayed by actor Stanley Adams) was the small-time huckster/merchant who sold the crew of the Enterprise TRIBBLES in the classic ST episode, The Trouble With Tribbles.

 

Did anyone else spot some fun stuff?

Let us know.

 

- TB

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In even more 'other words', this film had the budget to go where no Trek has gone before.

 

Well said, Tim!

 

Thanks for the great review for the 40-something Trekkies - I really look forward to seeing this flick!

 

Gotta say, I love Chris Pine's humility and humor during all the press - and the fact that he wrote The Shatner a letter when he was cast as Kirk. Good manners. Diggin' on this kid.

 

Thanks to everyone also for not spoiling until I hi thee - well, myself to the theater - appreciate it, folks. Lots of good comments and feedback, too.

 

Cheers! :)

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Did anyone else spot some fun stuff?

 

Slusho was the one that made me groan. Slusho is a product that has shown up in Lost, Cloverfield, and now Star Trek. Maybe MI3, not sure.

 

Abrams is pretty big into this kind of thing. Have we mentioned dropping the 66 vette off a cliff? 1966 being the year the original show debuted.

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I think Weston is either high or they released Orion pheromones into the theater he saw the film in whenever Gaila walked into a scene.

The Orion Slave girls from episodes of Enterprise and Star Trek Classic were 100 times hotter.

That was rather a letdown for me, and the make-up seemed a bit spotty too.

Uhura had her out-hotted by leaps and bounds.

 

;)

 

- tb

 

PS - @ Noeland - I said fun stuff, not stuff that made you groan ;)

I got a huge kick out of the Dr. Chandra thing.

 

Also, writer/producer, friend of RAW, Akiva Goldsman as a Vulcan Council Member, that was good too ;)

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Did anyone else spot some fun stuff?

Let us know.

 

- TB

 

Scotty mentions he tested his transporter on admiral archers beagle which might be a refrence to captain archer from star trek enterprise who had a pet beagle.

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Scotty mentions he tested his transporter on admiral archers beagle which might be a refrence to captain archer from star trek enterprise who had a pet beagle.

 

Nice one. I remember him saying that but for some reason it flew right by me. Good grab.

Admiral Archer . . . . ;)

 

- TB

 

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I said fun stuff, not stuff that made you groan

 

Well I meant grin, not groan.

 

:)

 

 

 

 

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Apparently, 'lil Kirk listening to "Sabotage" was an inside joke to some Shatner outtakes.

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I think Weston is either high or they released Orion pheromones into the theater he saw the film in whenever Gaila walked into a scene.

The Orion Slave girls from episodes of Enterprise and Star Trek Classic were 100 times hotter.

That was rather a letdown for me, and the make-up seemed a bit spotty too.

Uhura had her out-hotted by leaps and bounds.

 

;)

 

- tb

 

 

Rachel Nichols is way hotter than the new Uhura, green, blue, purple, normal, or otherwise.

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Dude, in real life Rachel Nichols is absolutely stunning. No question.

But her make-up in ST was lame.

 

On the street it's Rachel by a landslide, but in the vernacular of Trek, Susan Oliver or Yvonne Craig (in their time) either one have her licked.

 

;)

 

- TB

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Well, she's probably dead anyway, but at least Kirk got to hit that green ass.

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First of all. Before seeing this I had never seen any Star Trek movies, and just a few episodes from next-gen. I've always dug Picard and Data. I've only seen Shatner in movies like Showtime and Airplane 2 and had no idea who Spock or Scotty was, expect for having known some of their lines being quoted. And of course having always remembered George, Jerry and Kramer talking about Wrath of Khan in an episode of Seinfeld. The closest I've seen of a Trek movie would be Galaxy Quest though, and that's one of my fav movies. Other than that I love the video game Wing Commander IV (starring Mark Hamill, Malcolm McDowell and Hook from Thrashin').

 

Anyway. Having seen the macho bore that is Wolverine some weeks before, I went in with no expectations and it took me by surprise. It was everything I wanted in a blockbuster (and a sci-fi one!). You could really tell it was a JJ movie as well. The camera work reminded me a lot Wall-E (ironic) in certain scenes. And you definitely had the MI:3 feel going on. I'm also glad that they haven't tried making it into a children's movie. It might convert many people into liking sci-fis, but the hardcore fast and furious crowd will prolly hate it. It had all the geekyness I'd expect in a Trek movie. But most importantly it made me want to check out the older stuff.

 

It warmed my geeky sci-fi heart to see it. On a die 6 it's imo a strong 5.

 

"by Grabthar's hammer, by the sons of Worvan, you shall be avenged."

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Thanks for sharing, Nighthawk. It was interesting reading the opinion of someone not very familiar with the source material. Obviously, it wasn't necessary to enjoy the movie.

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